JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

HKSDU

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

J-11 too expensive? why they create it then? even they facing problem regard copyright with Russian?
I know Russian recently abandon Su-33 (too expensive) in favor of MiG-29K, I also read they won't sold MiG-29K to China, so China will create carrier-fighter based on J-11, and latest rumored J-10.
If like you said, China will need to figure out how to navalized JH-7 to fit into the PLAN carrier, the fighter-bomber mission will carried by naval variant of J-11 or J10.

For simple dump and run missions why send and aircraft that cost heaps when a cheaper aircraft can do it. JH-7 was developed originally for both PLAAF & PLANAF but both had different mission requirements, and in the end the PLAAF version was dropped. And the PLANAF version continued. A navalized aircraft doesn't mean it will operate off carriers, navalized means it is modified to suite the needs of the Navies airforce. It was later on that the JH-7 was introduced into the PLAAF cause the J-11 was constantly being delayed.

You said redesign the JH-7 to multirole so it can carry guided bomb and anti-ship missile. No redesign needed as it can already do that.

If like you said, China will need to figure out how to navalized JH-7 to fit into the PLAN carrier, the fighter-bomber mission will carried by naval variant of J-11 or J10.

Carrier operation is completely different. Fighters and bomber from ground have more luxury since they operate from their home base. The JH-7 can be protected and escorted by J-10 & J-11 from land based. But a aircraft operating off carriers carry limited aircraft, so the aircraft must perform multiply roles and don't have has much luxury as the ground based ones. The J-15 utilizes the Flanker airframe cause its proven that it can operate off carriers, but the J-10 has no history of it. They chose Su-33 over Mig-29K is the same reason why they chose Su-27 over Mig-29 in the 90's, and also they already operate flankers, so they know the maintenance and operation procedures already.

In personal view the Russians chose the Mig-29K is cause the production line is already re-opened and running cause of the funding from India. Restarting the Su-33 line will be costly, when the Mig-29K line is already opened.
 

plawolf

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

*Imagines JH7As trying to take-off and land on the Varyag

* Cringes

Some planes are just not suited for carrier operations and no amount of modifications will change that.

The JH7 is a classic low-level penetrating striker. What the Tornado could, and would have been if there wasn't that VG wing fetish when the Tornado was designed.

It might seem a little old fashioned to be a single role aircraft in a world of multi-role peers, but what it lacks in flexibility, it more than makes up for in speciality, as it can perform the strike role, and especially anti-shipping role for which it was designed, far better than most multi-role fighters out there today.
 

MwRYum

Major
Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

*Imagines JH7As trying to take-off and land on the Varyag

* Cringes

Some planes are just not suited for carrier operations and no amount of modifications will change that.

The JH7 is a classic low-level penetrating striker. What the Tornado could, and would have been if there wasn't that VG wing fetish when the Tornado was designed.

It might seem a little old fashioned to be a single role aircraft in a world of multi-role peers, but what it lacks in flexibility, it more than makes up for in speciality, as it can perform the strike role, and especially anti-shipping role for which it was designed, far better than most multi-role fighters out there today.

To make it practical massive amount of structural modification will be required - and certainly the added weight on the structure to make it tolerate the abuse of carrier landing is the prime concern, and then the wing need to be modified to make it able to make the carrier landing approach...in short there's little difference from making a whole new airframe, and I'd more incline that the SU-27 derivative is better basis for such things.
 

siegecrossbow

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

So huitong's site is back! But he just added a section for the JH-7B featuring that photo that we proved was fake.......Im confused....

He probably spent so much time writing the article he thought it would've been a waste if he didn't post it.
 

Engineer

Major
Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

or the better way is replace JH-7 and give the second bomber mission to J-11, J-10, or FC-1 fighter.

PLAAF and PLANAF view the JH-7 as a bomber like the H-6, even though JH-7 is classified as fighter-bomber. That's why its role can't be replaced by J-11.
 

Deino

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

Reportedly taken at Yantai Laishan :p ... the JH-7A's from the 5th Fighter/Ground Attack Division, 14th Air Regiment are quite well known, but I thought the J-8F's from the 5th Air Regiment are based at Jiaozhou !? :confused:

Deino
 

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HKSDU

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Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread

3rd picture with the covers on the pylons, does that appear to be a twin rail?
 
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