JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

TK3600

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In the sense of training new pilots and maintaining pilot competencies. Not in combat roles.
JH-7 is twin seat, you cannot equate them. Also there is dedicated trainers for training no need for those planes if there is all they can do.
 

Deino

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How a j-7 can carry couple of YJ-82 on a 900km combat range, laser guided or antiradiation missiles ? Or carry some Pl-12 for BVR combat ? They are clearly not role equal... JH-7 and JH-7a are generations behind of new aircrafts but still carry deterrence that j-7 have no way to achieve.

J-15/J-16 could take their flags when they will be done in mileage but j-7 role of light fighter could be replaced by Jl-10 or even jl-9 easily.

Just to nitpick… the JH-7A cannot use the PL-12
 

Blitzo

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Why posing it in front of it ? Or It's not a PL-12 ?
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At Zhuhai, not all weapons at an aircraft's static display are actually integrated and operational with the given aircraft in PLA service.

PL-12 is not integrated with JH-7/A -- in fact the aircraft has does not have any BVR weapons integrated with it as part of operational service to the best of our knowledge
 

Blitzo

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Is that a 1-ton PGM!!!?!?! OMG!
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The munition circled looks like:

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OMG, this is big! @Blitzo

I'm not sure if you're kidding or not.

I assume you are, because I clearly wrote this in my previous post: "At Zhuhai, not all weapons at an aircraft's static display are actually integrated and operational with the given aircraft in PLA service."


For other users, if they are new, I want to reiterate that we've seen other aircraft do flight test and launch tests with a variety of other weapons before, like L-15 with TL-20 100kg SDB style weapon, H-6 with 500kg wing kit and engine FT-12 PGM, a variety of FT and LS PGMs across a variety of different platforms, and JH-7/As as well with a number of different PGMs (including another 1000kg PGM class, below) -- but that's all irrelevant for our purposes of establishing whether the PLA actually has procured a given PGM type in service.

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Remember PGM testing =/= PLA procurement of said PGM in service

Flight testing and separation/launch testing is just part of the normal development of a new PGM by the various institutes.
It does not mean the PLA has bought them and it is in PLA service.
 

Jingle Bells

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I'm not sure if you're kidding or not.

I assume you are, because I clearly wrote this in my previous post: "At Zhuhai, not all weapons at an aircraft's static display are actually integrated and operational with the given aircraft in PLA service."


For other users, if they are new, I want to reiterate that we've seen other aircraft do flight test and launch tests with a variety of other weapons before, like L-15 with TL-20 100kg SDB style weapon, H-6 with 500kg wing kit and engine FT-12 PGM, a variety of FT and LS PGMs across a variety of different platforms, and JH-7/As as well with a number of different PGMs (including another 1000kg PGM class, below) -- but that's all irrelevant for our purposes of establishing whether the PLA actually has procured a given PGM type in service.

lgJd4tz.jpeg


Remember PGM testing =/= PLA procurement of said PGM in service

Flight testing and separation/launch testing is just part of the normal development of a new PGM by the various institutes.
It does not mean the PLA has bought them and it is in PLA service.
I started writing those before I got to your post.
But to be fair. I need to point out that the JH7A in the video above has yellow/green primer paint, with the PGM in white paint.

But in the picture, both the JH7A and the PGM has the same color paint as active PLA JH7A. That to me is an indication that the grey active PLA color JH7A and 1-ton PGM is closer to integration than the yellow primer and white PGM paint combination.

Of course, your skepticism is definitely a stronger argument.
 

siegecrossbow

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Just to nitpick… the JH-7A cannot use the PL-12

I could’ve sworn that I’ve seen a JH-7A carry PL-21 in flight though. Can’t seem to find the photo unfortunately. It is posted at this very forum.

Do we have a hashtag feature for finding past content easily?
 
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