janjak desalin
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I neither make definitive statements nor predictions about processes over which I have neither any control nor exert any influence. I tend to use words like might, could, or should, as opposed to will or won't.
JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread
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I neither make definitive statements nor predictions about processes over which I have neither any control nor exert any influence. I tend to use words like might, could, or should, as opposed to will or won't.
I completely agree with You but in recent times it seems as if there is a flood of new, suddenly appearing news posted in magazines no-one would ever associate with such a report. Such "sources" is wantchinatimes, a few Japanese magazines or newspaper and especially this British boulevard-press paper ! No-one would ever take a report that pops up so suddenly only in such a magazine for real ... IMO it's simply BS.
The problem now is that even in other more serious magazines often reporters write their reports without a true understanding of the matter and so the BS becomes a fact ...
Most often the reason for such a report is strangely not even an uninformed reported but a deliberately mentioned argument to follow a completely different reason: IMO and esp. since all these rumours about an rising FAA with new fighters and danger and so on are from British "sources" it looks for me like the RAF’s fight for a higher defense budget. Here especially playing the Falkland-card a bit is a huge boost to the British public ….
Therefore as long as a contract is not officially confirmed especially from the Chinese side I would be very careful.
Deino
janjak desalin
Junior Member
I don't want to go too far off topic, here. But, in redpose to,
I'm guessing that you mean from the Russian side? But, as you mention the Chinese, there are also reports that Argentina and China have formed a fighter aircraft working group, with the FC-17 and J-10 the subjects of discussion.
I'd think it safe to conclude that, as Argentina has made efforts to purchase new fighter aircraft, and that the purchase of their first choice, the JAS-39, was obstructed by the UK, that Russian and Chinese exports would be the next logical, and most viable options. Nevertheless, as I'm aware that speculation is frowned upon, here, I'll refrain from commenting upon that scenario.
My original thought was, simply, that the JH-7 is a capable platform with growth potential that could be a useful component of several emerging militaries and, as a wholly domestic product, could be a successful export for AVIC. It's simply an opinion.
I'm guessing that you mean from the Russian side? But, as you mention the Chinese, there are also reports that Argentina and China have formed a fighter aircraft working group, with the FC-17 and J-10 the subjects of discussion.
I'd think it safe to conclude that, as Argentina has made efforts to purchase new fighter aircraft, and that the purchase of their first choice, the JAS-39, was obstructed by the UK, that Russian and Chinese exports would be the next logical, and most viable options. Nevertheless, as I'm aware that speculation is frowned upon, here, I'll refrain from commenting upon that scenario.
My original thought was, simply, that the JH-7 is a capable platform with growth potential that could be a useful component of several emerging militaries and, as a wholly domestic product, could be a successful export for AVIC. It's simply an opinion.
Upps ... yes for sure the Russian side, THANKS.
Again, I think I'm getting older or I'm just tired due to these crazy days here in Germany - and especially Mainz - we call "Mainzer Fastnacht" (= Mainz carnival).
Regarding Your thoughts in general I agree completely with You and especially Argentina, Pakistan and Iran came in my mind several years ago as potential customers, but IMO no longer yet.
Deino
Again, I think I'm getting older or I'm just tired due to these crazy days here in Germany - and especially Mainz - we call "Mainzer Fastnacht" (= Mainz carnival).
Regarding Your thoughts in general I agree completely with You and especially Argentina, Pakistan and Iran came in my mind several years ago as potential customers, but IMO no longer yet.
Deino
janjak desalin
Junior Member
Don't think I'll need to look up Mainz Carnival. I'm here in New Orleans. It's Mardi Gras time, here!
;-)
LOL!!!
And yet you did say this:
Janjak said:
That is pretty definitive about a recent deal between Argentina and Russia for Su-24s...except that there was no such deal.
I believe that is what Deino was referring to, and he is exactly right about that.
And I would be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that he is exactly right about there not going to be a future deal either.
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Miragedriver
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Miragedriver
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J/H-7A night assault training, JiNan MA, 30, Mar. 2015
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Miragedriver
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I mentioned in a previous thread that the JH-7B would make a great replacement (and upgrade) for the Super Entendard. Fantastic range, room for upgrading electronics, and an impressive war-load. A squadron of 14 should do nicely.
What is not to like about this aircraft.
However, the political fallout for a sale to Argentina would be horrendous, and the British would be panic mode, especially if they were some concerned over some museum piece Mirage F-1's from Spain.
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Yeah, I think China is sensitive enough to the political fallout that they would not consider it.
The JH-7A/B is a key plank in China's maritime defense orbat where it faces the strongest potential opponents so it also probably doesn't want to risk any potential compromise of information on the platform.