JH-7/JH-7A/JH-7B Thread

[SteelBird]

Since this is an operational aircraft, I believe it is not JH-7B. Report said that the two pilots tried to avoid crowded area that they miss the chance to eject. May their souls rest in peace.

The first photo of the link below contains the body of one of the pilots, not too far from his aircraft.

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[Phoenix_Rising]

One of the killed pilot had his parachute pack on back, unopened.

According to the witness, the pilots changed course from toward west to north in their last second, dodged a crowded town and successfully avoided any civilian casualty.

Both engines crashed quite far from the main-frame. It looks like a disintegration.

PLAAF's morality require pilots take care of civilians first and their own safety last in emergency. I pay my full respect to their heroic.

But the reason caused their death must be found! All JH-7A should be hold on ground waiting for a full-scale investigation.

PLAAF has already lost too many men on it:

7 crashes, including today's tragedy, have killed 13 pilots. The survival probability is abnormally low.

The pilots' skill shouldn't be doubted because, among all 13 dead, there were 3 test pilots, 1 divisional commander and 1 regimental commander. Even the antique Q-5 was safer than it. There must be sth. seriously wrong about JH-7's low altitude performance and eject system.

 

[PanAsian]

Both engines crashed quite far from the main-frame. It looks like a disintegration.

Based on the pictures, the location of the engines as you noted, and my purely layperson's deduction, perhaps the fuselage just behind the wings is not strong enough.

 

[FORBIN]

Seems new Hui Tong say

JH-7A is expected to be replaced by JH-7B (Navy) and J-16 (Air Force).

presumably JH-7 also before then.

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[ClaudeJ]

Hello community,

just saw a twitter news titled "JH-7A with new electronic jamming pods spotted"... only to figure out that this "new" pods was, of course (?), already documented by Deimo 3 years ago (Modern Chinese Warplanes, p.111/112).

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Would anyone know more about these pods though, like an official designation? It looks like omni-directional to me but i'm not sure what are the virtues of each type of antenna one can see.

(Hopefully, this is the right topic).

All the best.

 

[Deino]

Hello community,

just saw a twitter news titled "JH-7A with new electronic jamming pods spotted"... only to figure out that this "new" pods was, of course (?), already documented by Deino 3 years ago (Modern Chinese Warplanes, p.111/112).
Would anyone know more about these pods though, like an official designation? It looks like omni-directional to me but i'm not sure what are the virtues of each type of antenna one can see.

(Hopefully, this is the right topic).

All the best.

Hi FDokal ... first of all HELLO, second THANKS for Your kind words and third, YES it is the correct topic here.

Regarding these pods I have to admit that Your questions are exactly mince since I noticed them for the first time ... sadly nothing so far.

Maybe some day ...
Deino

 

[janjak desalin]

Re: JH-7/JH-7A Thread
The JH7A will not sell well on the export market because it's too pure of a striker. (...)
What the JH7A brings is massive strike capabilities, but that is usually too much striking power for small air forces, who generally could not afford many airframes and as such could not afford to keep a dedicated strike regiment. For them, a primary air superiority fighter with limited secondary strike capabilities would do just fine.

Sure countries like Argentina, Pakistan and Iran would benefit massively from having a few regiments of JH7As, but can they afford to buy and operate them? These air forces have limited budgets, and plenty of other assets far higher up on their priority list for what funds they do have. (...)

The JH-7 might not sell well on the export market, but Argentina's recent deal with Russia for 12 Su-24 demonstrates that there is a demand for such dedicated strikers and that, when circumstances allow, or dictate, accommodations may be made to facilitate purchases thereof. Interestingly, the Su-24s combat radius is inferior to that of the JH-7. And, unlike the JH-7, its combat radius is insufficient to provide strike coverage over the whole of the Falklands theater of operations. Consequently, procurement of the JH-7 would have been more functional within what we may assume, somewhat safely, is a fundamental Argentinian strategic contingency.
As stated, the fact that the JH-7 is a wholly domestic product should offer significant motivation for AVIC to seek export contracts.

 

[Deino]

The JH-7 might not sell well on the export market, but Argentina's recent deal with Russia for 12 Su-24 demonstrates that there is a demand for such dedicated strikers and that, when circumstances allow, or dictate, accommodations may be made to facilitate purchases thereof. Interestingly, the Su-24s combat radius is inferior to that of the JH-7. And, unlike the JH-7, its combat radius is insufficient to provide strike coverage over the whole of the Falklands theater of operations. Consequently, procurement of the JH-7 would have been more functional within what we may assume, somewhat safely, is a fundamental Argentinian strategic contingency.
As stated, the fact that the JH-7 is a wholly domestic product should offer significant motivation for AVIC to seek export contracts.

Sorry, there is NO deal and there won't ever one in regard to Su-24 ! Period !!

It is only a report made-up by an uninformed reported from the British yellow-press ... could also be from Wantchinatimes or Kanwa.


And even if You are correct with the JH-7 being "better" than it is such a specialisied and even more dated design, it won't be sold.

Deino

 

[FORBIN]

Yes no deal and for range hmmm depends base, close Buenos Aires no but possible in the south of Patagonia, the more close are Rio Gallegos and Rio Grande she now closed, main Argentina fighters base used during the war by Dagger and A-4.

 

[janjak desalin]

(...) range hmmm depends base, close Buenos Aires no but possible in the south of Patagonia, the more close are Rio Gallegos and Rio Grande she now closed, main Argentina fighters base used during the war by Dagger and A-4.

Actually, Naval Air Staition Almirante Quijada, in Rio Grande, in the south of Patagonia, was the closest base used during the Guerra de las Malvinas, and is the closest base, by air distance. Almirante Quijada ~700 km vs Air Force Base Rio Gallegos: ~806 km.