JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

Zahid

Junior Member
Alan Warnes ‏@warnesyworld 3h
Weather not too good today at #DAS13. Flying display was cancelled around 2 after UAEAF Al Fursan team. Sandstorm by 4.30!

Alan Warnes ‏@warnesyworld 4h
Interviewed by Chinese CCTV on the ramp today. Wanted my thoughts on the show, threats in region, US presence, lack of Russians. #DAS13

Alan Warnes ‏@warnesyworld 4h
The last Block 1 JF-17 will be handed over to PakAF next month. #DAS13
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Interesting tweets from Alan Warnes, who is covering Dubai AirShow.

A number of articles have appeared about JF-17 in relation to Dubai Air Show. I have not come across any worth posting here.
 

Dizasta1

Senior Member
Irrespective of what anyone says, JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 has the potential to become very successful. The key is in the marketing of the aircraft and the product handling by the CAC/PAC Sales & Marketing Dept.

There is a good opportunity for the JF-17 Thunder to be marketed in South East Asia. Malaysia and Indonesia, are good potential customers. As are Algeria, Sudan, Angola, Nigeria in African. Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina in South America. As well as other countries like Azerbaijan, Indonesia, Malaysia and Sri Lanka.
 

adeptitus

Captain
VIP Professional
Don't forget that the air to ground capabilities were also neutered. Just not a very good idea... At least the French were willing to sell.

The French were willing to sell large numbers of AAM's, but the Exocet was no where to be found. The French was probably not willing to go that far for Taiwan.

The ROCAF was the first export customer for the MICA, but the French missiles were purchased from 1992 and probably ~20 years old by now. It's questionable if the French are willing to make major arms deal with TW and supply new missiles at this point.
 

Zahid

Junior Member
Thunder Over Dubai As First JF-17 Batch Is Completed

DUBAI AIR SHOW » 2013
by DAVID DONALD

JF-17
The Sino-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder is being promoted as a capable yet affordable multi-role warplane.
November 18, 2013, 10:25 AM
Next month a ceremony will be held in Pakistan to mark the delivery of the 50th JF-17 multirole fighter from the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) factory at Kamra. The handover marks the completion of production of the first batch of aircraft for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Designed in China by Chengdu as the FC-1, the JF-17 Thunder is being jointly developed and marketed by the Chinese and PAC.

With the first batch completed, the Kamra factory is gearing up to begin Block 2 production, with a gap of a few weeks to reconfigure the assembly line to provide for the new version. Block 2 JF-17s differ by between 10 and 15 percent from Block 1 machines, with improvements implemented across much of the avionics suite. The most important difference is the addition of an air-to-air refueling capability.

Block 2 will cover a further 50 aircraft and will complete the current firm orders from the PAF for 100 JF-17s. However, the eventual force requirement is considerably greater as the JF-17 replaces the F-5, F-7 and Mirage in PAF service. The factory is currently producing at a rate of 16 aircraft per year, but can increase to 25 if needed. All JF-17s are assembled in Pakistan, but China retains around 40 percent of the total workshare.

The JF-17 partnership is currently in the process of defining what the configuration of the Block 3 production aircraft will be, with the main aim of enhancing capability. This may include new weapons, from both Chinese and other origins, and possibly new radar and engine. The JF-17 already has the SD-10 (PL-12) active-radar air-to-air missile, and other weapons are being explored. PAC claims that integration of new weapons can be accomplished in a quick and cost-effective fashion.

Chengdu has schemed a two-seat trainer version that may prove attractive to some customers. It is understood that the project remains an engineering study only for now, and any further development would depend on a customer requirement. Pakistan has no such need for a trainer for the time being, as it has found the JF-17 to be an easy aircraft to fly with an excellent human/machine interface. The development of capable simulators means that the conversion of pilots to the type can be accomplished without the need for a two-seater, even for ab initio pilots flying the JF-17 as their first operational type. However, the future development of a two-seat combat aircraft is a possibility.

Here at Dubai the JF-17 is being displayed daily by Wing Commander Ronald, commander of No. 16 ‘Black Panthers’ Squadron. PAC has sent three aircraft to the show to promote the JF-17 to potential buyers. The company suggests that there is a global requirement to replace up to 4,000 early-generation jet fighters, and it is pitching the JF-17 as a cost-effective aircraft that offers true multi-role capability. PAC reports that 11 countries are showing strong interest in the type.

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There is nothing new or especially revealing in this piece. I am posting it just to show that JF-17 / FC-1 is attracting attention at the Dubai Airshow 2013.
 

ladioussupp

Junior Member
DUBAI: China details performance of 'carrier killer' missile for JF-17

the AVIC video details claims for the accuracy of each of the CM-400’s three major guidance systems, starting with a 50m (164ft) circular error probable (CEP) for an inertial navigation system coupled with satellite positioning.

The accuracy of the CM-400 improves by an order of magnitude - to a CEP of 5m - when an onboard infrared (IR)/TV seeker activates to provide terminal guidance. The list also claims that the CEP of the weapon actually worsens to 5-10m when an IR/TV seeker is supplemented by a passive radar during the terminal phase. It is not clear why the passive radar – identified as occupying the L, S and X bands of the electromagnetic spectrum – would not improve the CM-400’s accuracy.

AVIC lists the 0.4m-diameter missile as having a range of between 54-130nm (100-240km), while carrying either a 150kg blast warhead or 200kg penetration warhead.

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