JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Expect Block II coming soon, ground tests for aerial refuelling a success

Pakistan air force (PAF) is all set to attain capability of keeping its indigenously developed fighter aircraft “JF 17 (Thunder) airborne for longer haul, said Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafiq Butt. “The ground tests have been very successful and I am satisfied. The air to air refueling test) will be done successfully by end of this summer, Air Chief Marshal Butt said in an interview with Defence Jane’s Weekly. Pakistan had acquired the refueling air tankers Ilyushin II-78 from Ukraine back in 2010 and these are being synchronized with Medium to High Tech multi-role aircraft thus giving it the capability to remain in air for longer durations

ACM Butt pointed out that the capability would enhance the marketability of the aircraft which at present is being monitored by a number countries due to its cost effectiveness and other valuable abilities.

“The JF-17 program has been an excellent project to pursue, owing to the hard work put in by our engineers, technicians and test pilots,” ACM Butt said. “All this would also not have been possible without the cooperation of China.”
He said JF-17 with an attractive price tag has the capability of carrying a variety of weapons, it is a true multirole aircraft and in time “would become the PAF’s mainstay.”

He said that PAF has plan to induct around 200 t0 250 JF-17 aircraft.

Answering a question regarding the induction of Chinese-built ZDK-03 airborne early warning aircraft – a platform, ACM Butt said it has so far shown that its capabilities work well over sea, plains and mountainous terrain.”
In the meantime, he said PAF has also been maintaining and operating a sizeable fleet of US F-16 aircraft for a considerable time and its air/ground crew are fairly experienced in handling the weapon system.

“The PAF received its last batch of F-16s in the recent past and even now there are US Congressional clearances available for the provision of additional F-16 aircraft. Owing to requirements/compulsions in the future, there exists a possibility of acquisition of additional F-16 aircraft, he said.

To a query regarding purchase of High Tech aircraft, he said options are still open.

ACM Butt said that PAF must prepare for a two-front situation in view of its combat role in Pakistan’s anti- terrorism campaign, which has evolved since the 9/11 attacks on the US, in addition to its historic adversarial role as India’s neighbor.
“Airpower can achieve much more in a short span of time if employed with clear understanding of its capabilities,” he said. “Its inherent flexibility has enabled nation states to successfully deter their conventional adversaries as well as prosecute irregular outfits. We are now faced with a definite two-front scenario: external as well as internal. While we have always prepared for the traditional and ominous external threat, the new predicament did take us a while to get up to speed with, but …we did manage to learn on the job quickly and are very efficiently supporting our ground troops in all their operations against militants/terrorists.”

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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
With ZDK-03 and IL-78 tankers the JF-17 can stay up for longer and this opens up the air space to allow PAF do sustain a two front war for the first time

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khanasifm

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Dizasta1

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I was wondering if someone could verify the total number of RD-93s procured by China, so far. I've been trying to get a specific article or news-clip which would show the total number of RD-93s bought by China, but no luck.

As per the different military news-blogs, China initially procured (100) RD-93s, in the late 1990s. Then there were various blogs reporting that China was seeking another 100 engines (RD-93s). However, there is no particular source that accurately verifies this claim.
 

thunderchief

Senior Member
I was wondering if someone could verify the total number of RD-93s procured by China, so far. I've been trying to get a specific article or news-clip which would show the total number of RD-93s bought by China, but no luck.

As per the different military news-blogs, China initially procured (100) RD-93s, in the late 1990s. Then there were various blogs reporting that China was seeking another 100 engines (RD-93s). However, there is no particular source that accurately verifies this claim.

I don't think that total number is larger then 200 . There are various rumors on Internet claiming that lack of RD-93 (and delay of WS-13 ) is slowing down production of JF-17 . In fact , during recent visit of Russian officials to Pakistan , Pakistani side tried to secure delivery of the engines - apparently without success because India is putting pressure on Russia .
 

hardware

Banned Idiot
Last january 2013 (?) issue of Kanwa,Ukraine is developing new jet engine same thrust as RD-93 (or higher) as a alternative to russia RD-33/93 engine, the first customer likely PAF.
 

Lion

Senior Member
I don't think that total number is larger then 200 . There are various rumors on Internet claiming that lack of RD-93 (and delay of WS-13 ) is slowing down production of JF-17 . In fact , during recent visit of Russian officials to Pakistan , Pakistani side tried to secure delivery of the engines - apparently without success because India is putting pressure on Russia .

What nonsense are you talking about? The guarantor of RD-93 engine is China and not India. Russian talks directly to China for PAF JF-17 engines. Guess what? The person who ink the deal for re export of RD-93 engines from China to Pakistan is Putin.

JF-17 slow induction is more to do with bad financial state of Pakistan.
 

thunderchief

Senior Member
What nonsense are you talking about? The guarantor of RD-93 engine is China and not India. Russian talks directly to China for PAF JF-17 engines. Guess what? The person who ink the deal for re export of RD-93 engines from China to Pakistan is Putin.

JF-17 slow induction is more to do with bad financial state of Pakistan.

Everybody knows by now that China won't be using a large number of RD-93 for themselves . In other words most of the engines are destined for Pakistan . India on the other hand has leverage with Russia (as largest buyer of Russian weapons) . Therefore , don't expect smooth supply of RD-93s for JF-17 program . Don't have to believe me , check the numbers yourself . ;)
 
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