JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[plawolf]

argentina may wanted french radar and western make engine.but my suspect is that China may seeking argentina to purchase chinese make avionic and engine. as a package deal.
Paksitan originally wanted to replace FC-1 with french radar,but finally cave in to chinese demand that Fc-1 uses Chinese make radar.

I wouldn't say Pakistan caved as much as they realised just how good Chinese kit are these days and decided it was better to go with the Chinese radar and avionics.

Wrt to Argentina, well I think the chances of them going for western radars, avonics, engines or weapons is almost nonexistent.

They have not forgotten about how they were screwed over because of their over reliance on western weapons during the Falklands, and only recently

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because of the need for "guarantee autonomy" over their weapons. If they are unwilling to go with a western maker for something as benign as ejection seats (maybe they are worried about secret hidden codes that might allow an enemy to remotely eject all their pilots?), I really cannot see them opting for western radars, avonics, engines or weapons which are far more susceptible to embargos and/or kill codes.

Overall, the JF17 is an excellent fit for Argentina in pretty much all respects, and I'm sure the YJ82 and CM400AKG that are operational on the JF17 looks pretty damn enticing to Argentina. The possibility of part local production would also be a massive incentive.

 

[i.e.]

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Good news for Argentina!

 

[i.e.]

argentina may wanted french radar and western make engine.but my suspect is that China may seeking argentina to purchase chinese make avionic and engine. as a package deal.
Paksitan originally wanted to replace FC-1 with french radar,but finally cave in to chinese demand that Fc-1 uses Chinese make radar.

Dont Buy Chinese WS-13s!

get a F404 or even a Kalimov in there.

 

[hardware]

argentina historically rely on europe (french,britain) or US for military aircxraft, a sudden switch to Chinese make avionic and engine could post a logistic problem.
argenitna I suspect may wanted either EJ-200 or M-88 engine,which not only lighter,higher thrust, low fuel consumption,longer MTBF.

 

[MwRYum]

I simply wonder whether Argentina can cough up that kind of money...unless if there's something to help spread the cost around, like JF-17 won big contract in South & Latin America, and Argentina will be the manufacturing + assembly service provider for orders in the region.

 

[ANTIBODY]

SD10a/b, YJ82 and CM400AKG will definitely excite argentina --- naming it pampa3 [pampa lineage] however is not cool

Starting an assembly/manufacturing line along with concurrent training of pilots and crew is very costly and I wonder if argentinian gov is so motivated

 

[MwRYum]

SD10a/b, YJ82 and CM400AKG will definitely excite argentina --- naming it pampa3 [pampa lineage] however is not cool

Starting an assembly/manufacturing line along with concurrent training of pilots and crew is very costly and I wonder if argentinian gov is so motivated

Who knows? May be they are itching for another Falkland War....?

 

[hardware]

will ZDK -03 be next on argentina wish list?

 

[antiterror13]

The British wouldn't be happy and will do whatever it takes to influence Chinese govt. to not selling them. But the Chinese are not stupid, they will ask some concessions from the British

 

[rolking]

Dont Buy Chinese WS-13s!

get a F404 or even a Kalimov in there.

Why dont buy WS-13??

It will be quite a while, at least 3-4 years, before Argentina gets their JF-17 if they order.
So in your opinion, WS-13 will still be unreliable even in 2016/18.

Bad news for JF-17 and J-31....

Edit:
You mentioned in J-31 thread Post#233 that a mid-thrust turbo fan is in developement for a long time at Liyang. Is that WS-13??
So all chinese export fighters, JF-17, J-10, J-31 will have to use russian engines in the forseeable future, no wonder they have to buy Su-35....