JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Integrating the air launched cruise missile to the JF17 will make the JF17 a very potent fighter, it will mean that the Thunder will have a stand off capability to hit targets as far away was 350km, a great asset to the PAF

It has been tested 4 times from Mirage III and is a off shot from the Babur land attack cruise missile which will be fitted to naval vessals
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
How good is the FC-1 in modern aerial combat? Would it be comparable to the F-16C? I know it has a lot of nice gadgets for a plane of its class, and so I'm sort of curious.

I think this is old school thinking and has no relavence

What you should look at is mission profile, what is JF17 mission profile,

BVRAAM, SD-10
SRAAM, PL-5
Dumb bombs, Mk-82/84
Laser guided bombs, LT-2
Glide bombs, LS-6
Anti ship missiles, C802
Stand off missiles, H2/4
ALCM, Ra'ad
Anti- radiation missiles, MAR-1
Mission pods, WMD-7 and KG-300
3 extra fuel tanks

The list is really much longer but the point is that it's one aircraft that can fulfills all roles of air force, navy and army for any mission that will arise
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I think this is old school thinking and has no relavence

What you should look at is mission profile, what is JF17 mission profile,

BVRAAM, SD-10
SRAAM, PL-5
Dumb bombs, Mk-82/84
Laser guided bombs, LT-2
Glide bombs, LS-6
Anti ship missiles, C802
Stand off missiles, H2/4
ALCM, Ra'ad
Anti- radiation missiles, MAR-1
Mission pods, WMD-7 and KG-300
3 extra fuel tanks

The list is really much longer but the point is that it's one aircraft that can fulfills all roles of air force, navy and army for any mission that will arise

Don't forget the CM400AKG, which PAF officials stated were operational on the JF17 when the missile itself was unveiled.
 

timepass

Brigadier
JF17 mission profile,

BVRAAM, SD-10
SRAAM, PL-5
Dumb bombs, Mk-82/84
Laser guided bombs, LT-2
Glide bombs, LS-6
Anti ship missiles, C802
Stand off missiles, H2/4
ALCM, Ra'ad
Anti- radiation missiles, MAR-1
Mission pods, WMD-7 and KG-300
3 extra fuel tanks

The list is really much longer but the point is that it's one aircraft that can fulfills all roles of air force, navy and army for any mission that will arise

JF-17 Thunder - A true Multirole Fighter....
 

mzyw

Junior Member
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-06/22/content_16645655.htm

China's national aircraft exporter is seeking to expand its market share by selling more advanced planes to foreign clients, according to an executive from the company.

"We have started development of the two-seater FC-1 Fierce Dragon and plan to introduce it to the international market in three to four years," Ma Zhiping, general manager of China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corp, said at the 50th International Paris Air Show.

The Paris event, which claims to be the world's oldest and largest air show, was established in 1909 and is held every other year at Le Bourget Airport in northern Paris.

"Many potential buyers have told us they hope we can produce a two-seater variant of the FC-1 Fierce Dragon. We are in negotiations with several countries on their purchases," Ma said. "We hope at least one contract can be signed this year."

He added the likely deal will involve a considerable number of FC-1s.

"Around two years ago, I said we had hoped we could sell 300 FC-1s within five years. Now two years have passed and the sales record gives me full confidence of achieving this goal."

Ma's company is the biggest State-owned enterprise exporting aviation defense products and has a strong presence in the global military aircraft market. It is run under the Aviation Industry Corp of China (AVIC), the country's leading aircraft manufacturer.

The FC-1 Fierce Dragon is a third-generation multi-role combat aircraft developed by AVIC in cooperation with the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, the leading aviation company in Pakistan.

The aircraft has gained recognition from its Pakistani users.

"During my trips to many countries, almost everyone I met would ask me about the aircraft. Many said they want to join this project," Air Marshal Sohail Gul Khan, chairman of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, told China Daily.

Compared with the single-seat FC-1, the two-seater will have better aerodynamic design and more advanced avionic systems. It can be used as a trainer aircraft and will outperform the single-seat model in terms of air-to-surface strikes, Ma said.

Another aircraft highlighted by the Chinese exporter at the Paris show is the L-15 Falcon, a third-generation advanced trainer aircraft also developed by AVIC.

Ma said the L-15 Falcon is among the few trainer jets in the world capable of supersonic flight. It has an advanced fly-by-wire flight control system and other state-of-the-art avionic devices. Beside its role as a trainer aircraft, it has multiple functions such as aerial combat and air-to-surface strike capability, according to Ma.

He said a contract to sell six L-15s to an unnamed African nation was signed at the end of last year.

Chinese aircraft have taken a considerable share of the trainer-jet market, with about 300 JL-8s — a two-seater intermediate jet trainer and light-attack aircraft — being operated around the world, Ma said.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Don't forget the CM400AKG, which PAF officials stated were operational on the JF17 when the missile itself was unveiled.

This too yes, I think the reason they added this missile was because simply its insanely fast, which makes it difficult to track, engage and shot down

You have a fast fighter jet launching a even faster missile, two very difficult targets which means short time, the ballistics and computational power to successfully take one of these out is a very high which gives a greater advantage to the attacking force

For Pakistan its not to reach out and engage in the blue water, it's access denial, even if the warhead of this missile doesn't go off the kinetic impact alone would likely split a Indian Shivalik frigate in half, it's fast it's quick and its straight to the point!
 

Chaminuka

Junior Member
[h=1]Argentine officials confirm joint-production talks over China's FC-1 fighter[/h]Richard D Fisher Jr, Paris - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
23 June 2013


Officials from Argentine aerospace company Fabrica Argentina de Aviones (FAdeA) told IHS Jane's at the 2013 Paris Air Show they have had multiple discussions with Chinese officials over potential co-production of the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) FC-1/JF-17 multirole combat aircraft.
Discussions are far from concluded, with FAdeA officials saying "technology transfer" issues remain a sticking point. Nonetheless, the discussions are the first formal effort that could lead to the co-production of a modern Chinese fighter in Latin America. FAdeA officials said the co-produced FC-1 could be called the 'Pulqui-III', recalling FAdeA's Pulqui-II, Latin America's first swept wing jet fighter, which was designed by Germany's Kurt Tank for the government of Juan Peron.

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hardware

Banned Idiot
argentina may wanted french radar and western make engine.but my suspect is that China may seeking argentina to purchase chinese make avionic and engine. as a package deal.
Paksitan originally wanted to replace FC-1 with french radar,but finally cave in to chinese demand that Fc-1 uses Chinese make radar.
 
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