JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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ArslanPAF

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Deino said:
It is indeed a strange story almost comedy if it won't be a serious issues - what strange claims and assertions in the PDF are now being sold as "facts" and every doubt or even just a counter-question, so to speak, is rated as blasphemy!?

Anyway, I still see NOTHING, I see no major new wing with wider span, especially not a different wing with higher aspect ratio or greater ground-clearance, I see no major changes on the fuselage, which would allow a conclusion towards a different engine - some may have already "seen" a WS-13 during maiden flight - for higher mass-flow or whatever. And finally - IMO the most recent epitome of stupidity - I see not an additional fuel tank in the cockpit side-walls, only since these panels are painted green.

And this ignorance to argue against evidence is truly remarkable.
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Why do you think I left that place :p, I’ll be here more often now.

with regards to the green, so, it’s actually true, the green portions on the wings are fuel tanks, however, afaik, that engineer was talking in the context of the wing, so it’s wrong to assume it applies elsewhere? Though PDF will happily ignore logic and reasoning
 
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ArslanPAF said:
Why do you think I left that place :p, I’ll be here more often now.

with regards to the green, so, it’s actually true, the green portions on the wings are fuel tanks, however, afaik, that engineer was talking in the context of the wing, so it’s wrong to assume it applies elsewhere? Though PDF will happily ignore logic and reasoning
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... and here you are more than welcome! ;)
 
Mohsin77

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siegecrossbow said:
Fact: JF-17 has shot down a target with AA missile in live combat.
Fact: JF-17 has participated in strike against enemy targets in live combat.
Fact: In service Tejas still can’t fire BVRAAMs, let alone participate in any meaningful exercises.
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This is a case where the official story is not accurate. It was a Viper which splashed the Mig. That's what I initially heard from within the PAF and it was later backed up by reliable sources like Kaiser Tufail. The pilot which got the kill was also later revealed to be a Viper pilot. But this was problematic, geopolitically, because India was crying on television and asking for US sanctions, because we used Vipers in that engagement. Which is why the Thunder was given credit.

The Thunders successfully carried out the Strike role on that mission, along with the Mirage. That's a big win for the Thunder. The Tejas on the other hand, was nowhere to be seen that day. The IAF hid the Tejas in a base in Southern India, far away from any active borders. Lest we forget, the Tejas was supposed to replace the Mig-21, the same fighter that was splashed by the PAF that day.

Going forward, I think the Block III will be tasked with Air Superiority exclusively, because it's slated to replace the remaining F-7PGs, which only exist in the two Air Superiority squadrons in the PAF. I think the Vipers will be shifted to Strike, along with Block II's and Mirages. We'll have enough multi-role platforms to carry out ground-attack, which will allow the Block III to take on specialized air-to-air missions. That's where its AESA and (hopefully) PL-15s are most needed. It will take at least a year after induction though before it's deployed in this role. The CCS squadron at Mushaf will need to develop and test new tactics utilizing its new capabilities first. The Shaheen exercises with the PLAAF will help speed this process up considerably.
 
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