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JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Improvements to JF-17 block 3 are use of more composites/improvements to flight control and avionics. There aren’t any visible aerodynamics changes.
This is what you and me know, but yo also know that at the PDF some still claim or dream of a vastly different JF-17.5 or even JF-18!
Well only Indian news and media bother making news up like this.
JF-17 serviceability rate is fairly high. Higher than German Typhoons serviceability rate that's for sure. Definitely higher than the close to zero serviceability rate for Tejas in IAF. I think the PAF publish or talked about some of these details and serviceability rates are actually much less than one would think. JF-17's is fairly standard.
JF-17 is continued to be purchased and developed by Pakistan. If it were that poor, they wouldn't have made and ordered close to 200 units and have plans for much more in a new block.
JF-17 participated in multiple foreign exercises, actually gone to war with India and was used successfully. India did not send a single Tejas airborne for their strike on Pakistan or in defence when Pakistan retaliated. Pakistan has close to 200 JF-17s flying in service and India has about 30 Tejas "in service".
Methinks some Indians are just sore.
Cracks in the engine? lol that's a bit of indian fake news brigade. The engines are Russian made RD-93. If any cracks, they wouldn't be flying them and would be changing it. Indians can and do make up a lot of nonsense and the rest they either focus on one aspect or exaggerate the crap out of. You can compare their claims with established facts and notice you can't even listen to their nonsense with a mountain of salt. Doesn't work when it is pure fabrication. What they typically do is have a "anonymous source" state something then repeat that lie in one of their western named publications and then reference that.
Looks like Indian fake news but was curious about where it originated from. "Daily Sun" - is that a known Taiwanese news site?
Edit: I think I've found it:
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Well once you read that original source you can see it all. No sources, no information or evidence provided, no people or institutions quoted. Just Indian claims as per usual.
This is just outside India. The BJP narrative and IT Cell within India is even worse. That's their main crowd.
As for the claims made by Dr. MD Hussein (LOL sure and yeah the Indians always play false flag), well it states that JF-17 has western avionics. This isn't true despite carrying a few components that might be western in origin. The radar even for old ones isn't Italian despite much expectation for that. Pakistan probably did select some western components.
It also gets wrong the WS-13. It isn't something to be made, it's long already been made. It was a second option available in case Russia caves in to Indian pressure and refuses to export RD93 to Pakistan. WS-13 was continuously developed after that point and may or may not eventually find use in JF-17.
Another thing it gets wrong is "complicated with China finding it difficult to access spare parts and other assistance from Russia due to sanctions" well this simply is not true. There are no sanctions between Russia and China. In fact RD-93 has never been banned from access for this Pakistani fighter which is designed and partly made by CAC.
The rest are total unverified (and in fact untrue) claims. If the JF-17 was so horrible for serviceability, it wouldn't have exported to at least two other countries already.
The only thing it gets right is the smokey engine. However later RD-93 supplied by the Russians have improved that by quite a bit.
The Indian fascist new Hindu superdupas are like village idiots with extremely low understanding, just enough knowledge and words to make themselves sound right, and low intelligence for ability to think and be critical especially of the false information the rest of them peddle to each other. Not enough knowledge and intelligence to avoid pitfalls in understanding and being able to develop decent enough understanding of military topics. Even worse for political and philosophical ones.
It's basically 1 billion village idiots (the stupid ones probably make up more) getting access to the internet and being able to speak English.
It's basically 1 billion village idiots (the stupid ones probably make up more) getting access to the internet and being able to speak English.
Probably, I’m unaware of any block 3 prototypes at PAC, regardless of what people claim.
that’s not to say they don’t have an avionics testbed though. My memory may be wrong but I’m pretty sure they have one of the PT’s as PAC does weapons and systems/avionics integration
It is indeed a strange story almost comedy if it won't be a serious issues - what strange claims and assertions in the PDF are now being sold as "facts" and every doubt or even just a counter-question, so to speak, is rated as blasphemy!?
Anyway, I still see NOTHING, I see no major new wing with wider span, especially not a different wing with higher aspect ratio or a taller landing gear for greater ground-clearance, I see no major changes on the fuselage, which would allow a conclusion towards a different engine - some may have already "seen" a WS-13 during maiden flight - for higher mass-flow or whatever. And finally - IMO the most recent epitome of stupidity - I see not an additional fuel tank in the cockpit side-walls, only since these panels are painted green.
And this ignorance to argue against evidence is truly remarkable.
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