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Well, with the current plans, the JMSDF is going to have the following number of very decent, modern DDGs

9 x Murasami
5 x Takanami
4 x Akizuki
2 x Asahi
4 x Kongo
4 x Atago

In my opinion, the Kongo, Atago, and Akizuki are all either AEGIS or AEGIS-like vessels...making a total of 12.

The JMSDF is not as large as the PLA now, or in the future...but they are very ship shape and capable, and allied with the US, Australia, and Koreans, they make for a very powerful offset to the rising PLAN force.

If you take the AEGIS capability those four navies have in the Pacific, you end up with something like 50 AEGIS DDGs, plus however many AEGIS cruisers the US Navy keeps in the Pacific.

That's 28 very decent DDGs. They will also be building new, more modern FFG sized vessels soon.

On top of that, with the 4 x Hyuga and Izumo and the 3 x Osumi, they have a decent flattop fleet for ASW and Air Assault, and then of course the ultimate 13 x Soryu and 9 x Oyashio subs (that's 22 large SSks that are very capable vessels).

You add the Korean and Australian SSKs, and then the US Navy SSNs, and this underwater threat is perhaps the most dangerous threat the PLAN faces.
The JMSDF is not as large as the PLA now
Completely normal country of different size... but have a robust Navy the 4th but miss carriers, eventualy SSNs for it with Hiroshima etc... i don't think they can have, no plans...
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
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Well, with the current plans, the JMSDF is going to have the following number of very decent, modern DDGs

9 x Murasami
5 x Takanami
4 x Akizuki
2 x Asahi
4 x Kongo
4 x Atago

In my opinion, the Kongo, Atago, and Akizuki are all either AEGIS or AEGIS-like vessels...making a total of 12.

The JMSDF is not as large as the PLA now, or in the future...but they are very ship shape and capable, and allied with the US, Australia, and Koreans, they make for a very powerful offset to the rising PLAN force.

If you take the AEGIS capability those four navies have in the Pacific, you end up with something like 50 AEGIS DDGs, plus however many AEGIS cruisers the US Navy keeps in the Pacific.

That's 28 very decent DDGs. They will also be building new, more modern FFG sized vessels soon.

On top of that, with the 4 x Hyuga and Izumo and the 3 x Osumi, they have a decent flattop fleet for ASW and Air Assault, and then of course the ultimate 13 x Soryu and 9 x Oyashio subs (that's 22 large SSks that are very capable vessels).

You add the Korean and Australian SSKs, and then the US Navy SSNs, and this underwater threat is perhaps the most dangerous threat the PLAN faces.

Yep, those carriers will always have a shadow, and a "decoy" or two??? I think the KittyHawk incident will forever cement that probability into reality for the USN... they do "stand down",,, but with the recent changes in Chinese policy and direction?? and those "unprofessional intercepts" those will really only serve to keep the USN on their toes, and in condition "orange"!
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
No it means Peregrine Falcon.

That was a "joke" in "Sport Bike" or "Cycle World" about the "Busa", which anyone with any sense still loves?? LOL

By the way Samurai, there is an 88 GSXR 750 in the Chicago area for sale, that nearly gave a "Heart Attack" this morning, it has around 10,000 miles for around 5 grand and "stone cold mint" from the pictures and description???
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Why is a sea fairing craft be named after a bird? Shouldn't it be named after a sea or ocean creature? Unless this craft possesses some flight capability we aren't aware of?

and why do ships have "Flying Ladies??", LOL, this ship is named the Hayabusa because like the Peregrine Falcon it is speedy and maneuverable?? we've seen lots of fast boats literally "Fly" across the water,,, love hydrofoils, and their technology, likewise the Russian's ekronoplanes are very kool..

So lots of ships and boats have aeronautical conotations in their names.
 
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