Japan intercepts PLAAF Y-8 near Japan

paintgun said:

what an arrogant and ignorant thing to say

Singapore is the true gatekeeper of the Malacca Strait, if she was to block Chinese ship from passing through, there is nothing China can do to prevent that, not militarily or economically.

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What an arrogant statement. What silver bullet Singapore Navy has that can make PLAN do nothing about it?

All China needs to do is to send a dozen of H-6K , each carrying 6 CJ-10 with 2300km range and fire at her... I doubt Singapore can do anything about it.

paintgun said:

what an arrogant and ignorant thing to say

Singapore is the true gatekeeper of the Malacca Strait, if she was to block Chinese ship from passing through, there is nothing China can do to prevent that, not militarily or economically.

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That's ridiculous. If Singapore starts taking up arms against China, then that means WW3 has started already.

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paintgun said:

Other than the massive economic clout it used to have, Japan has practiced her soft power since the 80s, when the movie and culture boom starts appearing in the West at that time.

Goethe Institute, British Council, Japan Foundation, and plethoras of American NGOs, China should start something like that as well.

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Sorry, other than Manga. Nobody appreciate Japan culture and pop anymore. Are you still living in the 90s? Most Asian go for Korean pop and Korean Fashion nowadays.

Are you out of date? Probably you still think Sony handphone like Experia outsold Samsung S4??

I repeat again, the only thing left Japan still has a big influence is Manga.. Nothing else.

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Lion said:

Sorry, other than Manga. Nobody appreciate Japan culture and pop anymore. Most Asian go for Korean pop and Korean Fashion.

Are you out of date? Probably you still think Sony handphone like Experia outsold Samsung S4??

I repeat again, the only thing left Japan still has a big influence is Manga.. Nothing else.

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And porn. Japanese porn is pretty big. Err... I read that... somewhere...

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solarz said:

And porn. Japanese porn is pretty big. Err... I read that... somewhere...

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Ya... Those kind of pervert and shameless thing, its good Japan is still number one! That will show what kind of people Japanese are.

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kroko said:

Doesnt matter. ASEAN countries are not important to disputes betwen china and japan. Only the US and NE asian countries matter (including russia, who surely is getting nervous with japan expanding its marine forces and be willing to go into offensive. Remember the kuril islands dispute?).

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Most ASEAN countries, other than the 3 or 4 that are in territorial disputes with China, of which Vietnam and Phillipines are the noisiest, are not directly involved in the disputes.

The 10 ASEAN countries are important to China economically. They cover a sizable land area and, as a whole, is as big a trading partner to China as the U.S.

pissybits said:

that's because a good portion of singaporeans are descended from rich chinese people who fled the mainland before 1949 so they wouldn't become political pariahs. you can expect them to bear a grudge against the ccp. plus china is "communist" and getting stronger so it's scary. japan on the other hand is the land of robots, anime, and hello kitty as far as they are concerned, not a threat in our time. they dont think about how much singapore's economy depends on china nor do they think about all the billions upon billions that dirty chinese politicians have hidden away in discreet singaporean bank accounts. reminds me of the old adage: don't bite the hand that feeds you.
in singapore's case, these people you talk about are going to end up on the wrong side of history. -though i'm positive a good number of them will start changing their minds as the decade wears on. just watch.

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rhino123 said:

I really hope what you predict came true because it is getting more and more worrying... especially coming from someone who is living in Singapore all his life.

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They can always put their money and invest it in Houston's Chinatown anytime.










Don't forget to support the local Miss Chinatown beauty pageant as well! Don't be shy boys!




Here's an artist rendering of a development going on in the Westchase area (Chinatown expanding westward to Beltway 8 highway).

Here's a simple way to look at it. Nations with "warm" territorial disputes with China will likely lean toward Japan as a counter-weight to China, while those with "warm" territorial disputes with Japan will likely oppose Japan's increased military capabilities, but not necessarily ally with China.

You can expect the Philippines, Vietnam, and India to be friendly to Japan at China's expense, versus South Korea and Russia, both with island disputes with Japan, will be unfriendly to Japan's military plans. However, China, SK, and Russia are not likely to join together in their dispute vs Japan.

Japan, on the other hand, will make some concessions to keep "cold" disputes with other parties from warming, such as the fishing concession to Taiwan. Although the concession goes both ways in terms of access to each other's EEZ, from Okinawan fishermen's perspective this concession was made at their expense with increased competition from Taiwanese fishing fleets. Tokyo decided to play the "Taiwan card" without consulting Okinawans or offer them any financial compensation for being squeezed.

Let's rein in the pointless and OT popularity contest and ego trips please. Those things have nothing to do with what this thread is about.

Japan going aggressive and looking at pre-emptive attacks is just plain silly and ultimately self defeating.

Neither the Russians or the Chinese are overly concerned by Japanese military might when both benchmark themselves against the US military anyways.

Neither China or Russia would doubt that America would honour its treaty obligations and come to Japan's aim if Japan was attacked. But if Japan initiated hostilities by shooting first or launching an invasion of Russian held islands, well that's an entirely different matter altogether.

Legally and politically, America is not obliged to help Japan on a war of aggression, and against the likes of China or Russia, a direct military conflict will almost certainly result in US casualties levels not seen since Korea or WWII, and that's a best case scenario.

If Japan really was stupid enough to attack China or Russia, I think there is every chance America will hang them out to dry. And it would actually be in their best interest to do so.

Staying out of the conflict means no America casualties and no attacks on American bases and assets in Japan. It would also serve as a much needed reminder to the Japanese of who actually calls the shots in that relationship, because if the Japanese went against America's wishes and interests and started a shooting war all by themselves, that will piss off the Americans almost as much as whoever the Japanese attacked. Can't have the tail wagging the dog now can we?

There will probably be some unspoken ground rules, and so long as China or Russia don't go too far and back off when America asks, I think America would be happy to let the Chinese and/or Russians teach Japan a lesson and push Japan even more firmly under American control.

paintgun said:

what an arrogant and ignorant thing to say

Singapore is the true gatekeeper of the Malacca Strait, if she was to block Chinese ship from passing through, there is nothing China can do to prevent that, not militarily or economically.

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China can sink the entire Singapore navy in 48 hours.