J-XX Fighter Aircraft
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Londo Molari
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Thanks PrOeLiTeZ!!!
you need engines that have bigger thrust, which consumes alot of fuel, and it'll be less agile then its lighter companions. though it can be fitted with a bigger radar and more avionics for electronic warefare purposes or other situations.
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Judging by China's previous products, a J-XX comparable to the F-22 is unlikely, all Chinese aircraft have been copies of other countries designs, from the J-10 to the J-11B, I'm not saying this is a bad a way of doing things since copying can save a lot of time/money, but a self-developed J-XX is VERY unlikely.
AssassinsMace
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We've never heard that before. People around Richard Nixon thought it was safe to open relations with China because they knew China would never amount to anything more than cannon fodder against the Soviets.
the european and russian aerospave industries are far more advance than China, yet both of them unable to come up with F-22 and F-35 type aircraft.
giving this, china may require external aid,but the problem is no countries in the world are willing to surrender there technology (Chinese official openly admit it)China may have to do it my themself.
giving this, china may require external aid,but the problem is no countries in the world are willing to surrender there technology (Chinese official openly admit it)China may have to do it my themself.
FugitiveVisions
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What? I thought Nixon opened relations with China because of Kissinger's conservative european-based philosophy of preserving stability and order by establishing equilibrium forces.
Anyway, CAC seems to be handling the design of this aircraft. A maiden flight by 2015 would be good.
Its only the airframe that they have retained from the Su-27 in the J-11B other then that everything else is domestic, powerplant, avionics, weapons, radar etc...The word you used "all" of chinese aircraft are copies are incorrect. Lets name some obvious ones J-8 and JH-7. Just cause the J-10 has airtakes on its belly like the F-16 doesnt make it a copy. A car has four wheels does that mean all cars are copied??
Another strong statement "very unlikely" it was very unlikey that China couldve produced something to match F-16 or the F-15. It was unlikely that China would be something that could match the Apache, Z-10. It was unlikely that China would make its own turbofan and advance AAM and ASM. China doesn't need something in the likes of F-22 it is unessary for China airforce.
China doesnt follow the footsteps and progress of the USA they follow their own, so if China doesn't think that an F-22 is neccessary then I'm sure they have found something suitable in countering this aircraft.
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F-35 is a joint development between BAE and the American defense contractors.
We did make the harrier after all
PrOeLiTeZ said:
What I mean is that those things weren't built from the ground up, they're just built based on Russian development, but not always directly copies.
PrOeLiTeZ said:
I was refering to the IAI's Lavi.
If I take a T-80 and turn it into a Type 99 then yes, it is merely a heavily modified version, with your own electronics etc.
Something like the Arjun is more of an example of a self-built tank.
The J-8 project was largely made possible due to the transfer of MiG-21 technology from the Soviet Union in 1961. However this aircraft lacked the speed, range, altitude, and radar capability the PLAAF needed in an all-weather interceptor. The nascent Chinese jet aircraft industry was mostly established with Soviet assistance and Chinese designers followed Soviet design methodology for the J-8. A Soviet experimental aircraft known as the Ye-152 "Flipper" with similar configuration may have influenced the J-8 layout, as did the Sukhoi Su-15 'Flagon-A' airframe.
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Uses licensed Rolls-Royce Spey Mk202 engine copies.
If the rumour is correct the SD-10 has the electronics from the Raytheon-Motorola bid for the AIM-120 (which lost but Raytheon bought Hughes later on), either that or it's a re-boxed R-77 with a Chinese motor.
Under this ostensibly civilian program, various key Western helicopter manufacturers Eurocopter (rotor design,consultancy), Pratt & Whitney Canada (PT6C turboshaft) and Agusta Westland (transmission) was able to provide considerable technical assistance to the program.[3] The WZ-10 attack helicopter will enter active service in 2008.
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WS-10A is based on the USA CFM-56 engine.
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