J-35 carrier fighter (PLAN) thread

Deino

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It is very likely that WS-19 took its maiden flight on an unknown aircraft today. Not clear on J-35 or dual engines yet. Rumor only.

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Could you please post a screenshot of this news? Seems as if the link is dead already?
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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It is very likely that WS-19 took its maiden flight on an unknown aircraft today. Not clear on J-35 or dual engines yet. Rumor only.

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Not dead yet just acrhive.org should spend more on their server.
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If this news is indeed accurate...

Recall that:
1. The WS-15 was first seen installed onboard a J-20 sometime in 2021 or 2022, albeit with only one of it onboard;
2. The J-20 was first seen taking off with both engines being WS-15s in June 2023; and
3. If Yankee's prophecy is true, then the J-20A with twin WS-15 engines should enter mass production sometime in 2025, if not 2026.

The WS-19 should have a relatively smoother development progress than the WS-15.

So if the WS-19 follows WS-15's footstep, perhaps we might see WS-19 on serial production J-35s sometime in 2026 or 2027, if not latest by 2028?
 
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sunnymaxi

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If this news is indeed accurate...

Recall that:
1. The WS-15 was first seen installed onboard a J-20 sometime in 2021 if not 2022, albeit with only one of it onboard;
2. The J-20 was first seen taking off with both engines being WS-15s in June 2023; and
3. If Yankee's prophecy is true, then the J-20A with twin WS-15 engines should enter mass production sometime in 2025, if not 2026.

The WS-19 should have a relatively smoother development progress than the WS-15.

So if the WS-19 follows WS-15's footstep, perhaps we might see WS-19 on serial production J-35s sometime in 2026 or 2027, if not latest by 2028?
WS-15 first single engine flight has taken in Summer 2021. AECC confirmed small scale production in March 2023.. so basically engine took only 2 years to enter in LRIP stage .. just need to secure alloy supply chain before mass production.. i would say 2025 will be year of WS-15 full scale production..

WS-19 first flight confirmed. so if we follow WS-15 footsteps, then 2025 is year engine might enter in small scale production. if everything goes well. means testing
 

Ironhide

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WS-15 first single engine flight has taken in Summer 2021. AECC confirmed small scale production in March 2023.. so basically engine took only 2 years to enter in LRIP stage .. just need to secure alloy supply chain before mass production.. i would say 2025 will be year of WS-15 full scale production..

WS-19 first flight confirmed. so if we follow WS-15 footsteps, then 2025 is year engine might enter in small scale production. if everything goes well. means testing
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kentchang

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Just adding interpretation of this video clip from a Western analyst. The tone in the video feels more upbeat.

There was a commentary on the WS-15 (page 14 of the July 17th issue of Aviation Week by Steve Trimble) referring to this Conference.

"China is considerably behind the U.S. and Japan in ultra-strong aviation steel, especially various advanced rolling, cooling, and heat-treatment technologies."

Earlier in the article, "high-purity stainless steel" as specifically mentioned.

The last sentence goes like this:

"Qiang Wei, program lead at the AECC-affiliated Beijing Institute of Aeronautical Materials said in March that the WS-15 is now in serial production, but China's wrought superalloy materials supply chain remains too weak to support the country's military engine production road map."

Seems Trimble used the English translation of the video to come up with his article. I didn't hear anything in Chinese about "wrought superalloy" but the English translation has that.
 
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sunnymaxi

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Just adding interpretation of this video clip from a Western analyst. The tone in the video feels more upbeat.

There was a commentary on the WS-15 (page 14 of the July 17th issue of Aviation Week by Steve Trimble) referring to this Conference.

"China is considerably behind the U.S. and Japan in ultra-strong aviation steel, especially various advanced rolling, cooling, and heat-treatment technologies."

Earlier in the article, "high-purity stainless steel" as specifically mentioned.

The last sentence goes like this:

"Qiang Wei, program lead at the AECC-affiliated Beijing Institute of Aeronautical Materials said in March that the WS-15 is now in serial production, but China's wrought superalloy materials supply chain remains too weak to support the country's military engine production road map."

Seems Trimble used the English translation of the video to come up with his article. I didn't hear anything in Chinese about "wrought superalloy" but the English translation has that.
they always cry..

these Western shills are so shameless they really have no idea about China. they continue to peddle this narrative ''considerably behind the U.S. and Japan in ultra-strong aviation steel''. LMAO
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Qingtuo Cold Rolling Technology successfully rolled 0.015 mm ultra-thin hand-shredded steel using localized equipment. This is currently the thinnest stainless steel in the world and a major breakthrough in process technology..

China also broke T1000 carbon fiber Monopoly of USA/Japan ..

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AECC indeed talk about supply chain. WS-20/WS-15 and other engines about to enter in serial production. so there is enormous demand of material and components. supply chain of all these engines are interconnected .. its normal
 

taxiya

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Just adding interpretation of this video clip from a Western analyst. The tone in the video feels more upbeat.

There was a commentary on the WS-15 (page 14 of the July 17th issue of Aviation Week by Steve Trimble) referring to this Conference.

"China is considerably behind the U.S. and Japan in ultra-strong aviation steel, especially various advanced rolling, cooling, and heat-treatment technologies."

Earlier in the article, "high-purity stainless steel" as specifically mentioned.

The last sentence goes like this:

"Qiang Wei, program lead at the AECC-affiliated Beijing Institute of Aeronautical Materials said in March that the WS-15 is now in serial production, but China's wrought superalloy materials supply chain remains too weak to support the country's military engine production road map."

Seems Trimble used the English translation of the video to come up with his article. I didn't hear anything in Chinese about "wrought superalloy" but the English translation has that.
The English subtitle in that video is totally rubbish, it doesn't translate what the speaker actually said.
 
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