J-20... The New Generation Fighter
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BAJRANGBAL
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Man, Sukhoi 30MKI is enough..It is now on upgradation with Russian Phazotron Zhuk-AE AESA Radar and nuclear missile.
Sukhoi 30MKI is on large production and upgradation in HAL, Bangalore. As of July 2010, the IAF has 124 MKIs under active service with plans to have an operational fleet of 280 MKIs by 2015.
The Su-30MKI is more advanced than the basic Su-30MK, the Chinese Su-30MKK, and the Malaysian Su-30MKM .[15] The aircraft features state of the art avionics developed by Russia, India and Israel which includes display, navigation, targeting and electronic warfare systems
The Sukhoi Su-30MKI is the most potent fighter jet in service with the Indian Air Force in the late 2000s.[43] The MKIs are often fielded by the IAF in bilateral and multilateral air exercises. India exercised its Su-30MKIs against the Royal Air Force's Tornado ADVs in October 2006.[44] This was the first large-scale bilateral aerial exercise with any foreign air force during which the IAF used its Su-30MKIs extensively. This exercise was also the first in 43 years with the RAF. During the exercise, RAF's Air Chief Marshall, Glenn Torpy, was given permission by the IAF to fly the MKI.[45] RAF's Air-Vice Marshall, Christopher Harper, praised the MKI's dogfight ability, calling it "absolutely masterful and unbeatable".[46]
In July 2007, the Indian Air Force fielded the MKI during the Indra-Dhanush exercise with Royal Air Force's Eurofighter Typhoon. This was the first time that the two jets had taken part in such a exercise.[47][48] The IAF did not allow their pilots to use the radar of the MKIs during the exercise so as to protect the highly-classified N011M Bars.[49] During the exercise, the RAF pilots candidly admitted that the Su-30MKI displayed maneuvering superior to that of the Typhoon.[50]
An earlier variant of the Su-30MKI, the MK, took part in war games with the United States Air Force (USAF) during Cope-India 04. The results have been widely publicized, with the Indians winning "90% of the mock combat missions" against the American force's F-15C.[51] When questioned on the capabilities of IAF pilots, Col Greg Newbech, USAF Team Leader made the following remarks: - "What we’ve seen in the last two weeks is, the IAF can stand toe-to-toe with best AF in the world. I pity the pilot who has to face the IAF and chances the day to underestimate him; because he won’t be going home. Indian hospitality from everyone has been truly overwhelming.
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Please try to stay on topic. This is a J-20 thread. If you want to have a discussion comparing the Su-30 models (ie between India, China, Malaysia, Russia), you can start your own thread on the matter. But keep it civil and technical, we don't welcome country bashing or "i think it's better because it's my country's" comparisons. - PiSigma
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J-20? that lacks a canard and have a tail wing, thats the F-22
Lol, my apologize, now corrected the link
bladerunner
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Quite a few posts back when everybody was back slapping each other over Chinas J20 one member posed the question "what of Europe" with the financial crisis they will be too poor to develop anything to match or counter the J20.
Although not in the design class of the J20, how about the UK's Taranis. Its a unmanned fast Jet demonstator, the size of a Hawk trainer.Its one of the worlds largest UCAV, that is stealthy, travels vast distances. While primarily built for survellience, it also can deploy a range of munitions over selected targets as well as defend itself against manned and unmanned craft.
Just imagine if different variants were built such as specialised J20 hunter killers. Lacking a pilot, so t you could pull more G's, thus making it ideal for dogfighting and all that sort of stuff. And after expending all the muntion one could kamikaze it into an enemy plane.. Sacrificing one cheap UCAV over a more expensive and crewed J20 would be a pretty good swap huh?
Although not in the design class of the J20, how about the UK's Taranis. Its a unmanned fast Jet demonstator, the size of a Hawk trainer.Its one of the worlds largest UCAV, that is stealthy, travels vast distances. While primarily built for survellience, it also can deploy a range of munitions over selected targets as well as defend itself against manned and unmanned craft.
Just imagine if different variants were built such as specialised J20 hunter killers. Lacking a pilot, so t you could pull more G's, thus making it ideal for dogfighting and all that sort of stuff. And after expending all the muntion one could kamikaze it into an enemy plane.. Sacrificing one cheap UCAV over a more expensive and crewed J20 would be a pretty good swap huh?
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I see you guys said Stop! Stop! Stop! but you never stop. Unless you stop replying to the posts of MKI, it won't stop. Now, stop replying, including mine.
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It has been speculated, that I almost considered it as true, that the J-20 would fly within this week. This morning, on sina.com I saw a post of a reviewing stand setup at Chengdu's airport which confirms that there would be big events soon. Now, how credible is this news, experts?
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It has been speculated, that I almost considered it as true, that the J-20 would fly within this week. This morning, on sina.com I saw a post of a reviewing stand setup at Chengdu's airport which confirms that there would be big events soon. Now, how credible is this news, experts?
You have vastly over-estimated the capability of AIs.
The current AIs are usually NP type problems using typical shallow numerical methods, and dont expect AI can outperformance human brains in complicate tasks anytime soon if ever happened in this century.
As for unmanned aircraft, China has invested lots money here as well, and I would say, at least in the foreseeable future, un-manned striker/bomber would be more feasible choices over un-manned fighters.
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BAJRANGBAL and maffiaw,
Stop discussing anything that's off topic. You two have even said in your own off topic posts that you are off topic; however, STOP MEANS STOP! That means stop quoting and replying to each others' posts! If you two really want to argue, do it over PM. This thread is solely used for discussing the J-20.
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Stop discussing anything that's off topic. You two have even said in your own off topic posts that you are off topic; however, STOP MEANS STOP! That means stop quoting and replying to each others' posts! If you two really want to argue, do it over PM. This thread is solely used for discussing the J-20.
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