J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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i.e.

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So in some people's mind...

china able to seek at least some qualitative parity in the near future, (essentially a requisit to defend itself in this day and age from unilateral interventionism)

equals:

Appeasement and impotence in face of Nazi Germany taking over europe.



so they don't think China should have the ability to defend itself then?
 

siegecrossbow

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I think it's kind of interesting that he's finally "retaliating". And I also think it is a bit unfair to call it all scaremongering, I mean some of his replies to the articles on J-20 are pretty good and the APA website in general isn't half bad.

He used "Peace in Our Time" as the topic of his article. Of course this is fear mongering. Most of his claims are absurd and serve political purposes, like the majority of Western "analysis" on the J-20. I find accounts from the "big shrimps" or even the "fence climbers" to be far more reliable than what guys with access to a few photos could produce.
 

i.e.

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He used "Peace in Our Time" as the topic of his article. Of course this is fear mongering.

Let's just get it open on the table shall we:

I think there are some people don't like non subserviant nation made up of non-white people being independent powers.

and that shows in their "analysis".
 

nosh

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That isn't to say he doesn't have his own motivations ("F-35, superbug sucks, need moar F-22, J-20+T-50 will kill USAF, rawr"), even if what some of his statements are true.

To be fair, the F-35 defenders also have their own motivations, and that team is far more powerful than APA.
 

i.e.

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That analysis is a joke:

"the Chengdu J-20 design has been flying for some time, likely since circa 2006;"
...
just one year after the final down select and 611 gets the contract???
 
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siegecrossbow

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That analysis is a joke:

"the Chengdu J-20 design has been flying for some time, likely since circa 2006;"
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just one year after the final down and 611 gets the contract???

This is the type of unsubstantiated B.S. I was talking about. No one could prove them wrong either. Since they've got the "credentials" they can analysis which ever way they want to.
 

Blitzo

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He used "Peace in Our Time" as the topic of his article. Of course this is fear mongering. Most of his claims are absurd and serve political purposes, like the majority of Western "analysis" on the J-20. I find accounts from the "big shrimps" or even the "fence climbers" to be far more reliable than what guys with access to a few photos could produce.

I'm not quite sure what to make of the title, because he also includes a question mark. I don't think he's quite saying China is nazi germany but rather J-20 could cause challenges for the west while they are "complacent" at present?

APA does have political motives of course, but I think they also aren't amateurs to "analyzing" aircraft. Personally I rank them higher than say, strategypage and most western media sites in general, maybe equal to aviation week and flight global.
 

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That analysis is a joke:

"the Chengdu J-20 design has been flying for some time, likely since circa 2006;"
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just one year after the final down select and 611 gets the contract???

I rofled a bit at that too.
 

siegecrossbow

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APA does have political motives of course, but I think they also aren't amateurs to "analyzing" aircraft. Personally I rank them higher than say, strategypage and most western media sites in general, maybe equal to aviation week and flight global.

That isn't a very high bench mark lol. My 12 year old cousin is a better source on the Chinese military than strategy page.

I have a feeling that people on aviation week are gonna be outraged by your comparison :D :D :D.
 
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