J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

Miragedriver said:

I know we are straying off topic here, but I’ve been curious about UVA’s and their possible roll as an AWCA aircraft were the operators are ground based, or controlled by a larger AWAC aircraft. These UAV’s could be used in high threat environments, by themselves, or to extend the range of existing AWAC when used in conjunction.
Any thoughts?

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T-Rex said:

On the basis of performance where does the J-20 stand against the US F-22 Raptor? I hear that the Raptor is far superior to the J-20, is that true?

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antiterror13 said:

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It is for sure ... no doubt

Like American's banks are far superior and healthier than the Chinese ones

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A.Man said:

Just few years ago, American bankers often said that most Chinese banks were in trouble. Today, so many American big banks were gone. Four out of five top banks in the world are Chinese banks. I believe Chinese banks are number one, two, three and five.

Sorry, three out of top five!

The list below shows the largest banks in the world based on market capitalization as of January 20, 2012. Industrial & Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) is the largest bank in the world by market capitalization value.



Chinese banks occupy the top positions. The People’s Republic now has 4 of the top 7 banks, including the top 2.
Rank
Bank
Country

Market cap ($b, 20/1/2012)

1. Industrial & Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) China = 240.95

2. China Construction Bank, China = 195.85

3. Wells Fargo & Co, US = 160.72

4. HSBC Holdings, UK = 150.90

5. Agricultural Bank of China, China = 141.73

6. JP Morgan Chase, US = 140.95

7. Bank of China. China = 128.80

8. Itau Unibanco, Brazil = 88.17

9. Citigroup, US = 86.67

10. Commonwealth, Australia = 82.62

11. Royal Bank Canada, Canada = 76.56

12. Bank of America, US = 71.77

13. Toronto-Dominion Bank, Canada = 70.53

14. Banco Santander, Spain = 67.32

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Player99 said:

Air Force Brat said:

Brat, my remarks were hardly contention to your arguments abovef. My key words are "in battle". And my sentiment is against armchair fighter performance analysts running amok on the Internet. Prediction would be legitimate and fairly accurate by a true expert such as Dr. Song or the pilots, especially those who have actually been on such aircraft themselves, or someone who really spends time studying these things. Even then, a prediction is just a prediction. And by definition and for its practical utility, a prediction has to be empirically proven to become a fact.

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Your point is well taken brother, and your comments are always well thoughted and cogent, I also included a little friendly BS at the end of my comments, but I double posted and deleted it. My real point is that any fighter pilot with previous knowledge that he would be facing a Raptor in ACM better be praying really hard that it breaks down, and I know you at least suspect how good the Raptor is in spite of all the forum flack it receives from some hacks, but you are right, when the real deal comes down, it should give us all cold sweats. My point is the best weapons will never likely be used, if the bad guys whoever they prove to be have any sense, [although we know some real fruit-loops]. I always appreciate your honestly and good manners, I'm sure your Momma is proud, and I'm proud to have you as my forum wingman. Brat

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hmmwv said:

If what I hear are true we won't be seeing any clear picture of 2001 at Yanliang anytime soon, or ever.

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