J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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Can You See The Engine?

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A Side Door Of Weapon Bays Is Open!

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You Wish You Can See Those Guys' Photos (They Will Be Official Leaks)

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Time Will Tell

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By The Way, C919 Cockpit Will Look This

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HUD For C919? What Will Be On J-20's?

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Bltizo said:
Here's what I said
The fact that China has multiple airborne AESAs deployed and in service entails that J-20, an up and coming fighter aircraft with an AESA as a necessity will probably have AESA. TRUE
The fact that Russia has no airborne AESAs deployed and in service DOES NOT ENTAIL that PAK FA, an up and coming fighter aircraft with an AESA as a necessity will not have AESA. FALSE.
The Zhuk AE is not deployed or in service by any stretch of imagination and the original comparison was with aircraft in production and in service.



You have yet to reply to the rest of my argument. But from here I do hope you will stop thinking it is necessary for China to have TVC or supercruise capable engines deployed and in service for J-20 to have them, at least.

GG.
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if you and fulcrum are taking a philosophy course on critical thinking in university, i'd pass you and fail him. he needs more tutorial to understand "sufficient vs necessary"
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J-20 Mighty Dragon latest close-ups

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Pixelation obscures opened side-weapon bay.

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Look closely, you can see the interior of the engines. [A.Man's comment]

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J-20 with two different engine nozzles

[Note: Thank you to A.Man and HouShanghai for the pictures.]
 
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Bltizo said:
Tbh most American analysts downplay Chinese advancements too, on a slightly less extravagant scale though compared with the Russians.
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Russia is just sinking lower and lower now with dirty comments. They made no such comment when China was less advance then them, but as soon as the teacher is over thrown by the student the teacher starts to find any excuse to criticize the student. Sort of shows the state of the Russian military at the moment compared to China, it seems they are getting desperate to preserve "face" as the mighty military power they once were. "Copies will never be better than the original" So the first invented wheel was better than the ones we have now?

J-7E are obsolete compared to the first Mig-21, or Su-27SK more advance than the J-11B? Russia getting desperate, and know they are slipping from the ranks. The current position now is by clinging onto the technology passed down from the Soviet Union.
 
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Looks like the UAC top dog was misreported

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Asked for his professional opinion on China's J-20 stealth fighter unveiled in January, Pogosyan says: "You'd better ask the Chinese."

Pressed on whether he feels the aircraft is a genuine prototype or merely a technology demonstrator, he says: "China's aviation industry has achieved really significant progress. But on the other hand, to create a really competitive product is time-consuming, demands significant experience in the engineering field and experienced human resources."
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So the blame here lies with the Russian national media, as per almost always...
 
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