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J-20... The New Generation Fighter III
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Looks like those numbers were copied off the baidu wiki article...
MiG-29
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if its max speed is 2.5, wow its DSI has a new technology of inlet of internal shock compression, which i doubt, 17000, weight sounds not believeable, WS-15 sounds in the future, but if those are the numbers, official number well quiet impressive machine, but in my honest opinion those numbers are fake, DSI are fixed, B-70 uses internal compression above Mach 2.5 and honestly i doubt they have WS-15s when the next 120 J-10s will have Al-31s and the next 75 J-11s/Su-27s will have Al-31s and china is negociating a further 140 Al-31s for J-10s.
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PikeCowboy
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"..... 25 tons" ..... reads like 空战重量 to me
what do you mean the next 75 J-11s? Do you mean J-11B/BS or replacing Al-31s on old Su-27/J-11As? Because the recent order of Al-31s is not enough to equip 120 J-10s and 75 flankers, especially when most of that order should be to replace older engines and that all new build J-11B/BS are being equipped with WS-10. The fact WS-10's quantity can not be upped for the moment says nothign about WS-15 either, they're projects by different companies.
It would have been easier if you just said you didn't believe those numbers. Using Al-31 and WS-10 to support your argument that J-20 isn't equipped with WS-10 doesn't make sense... especially when no one argued those numbers are for the J-20 at present.
I'm interested were the picture was taken (there's no reason to believe the chart has any credibilty at all). It looks like there's an H-5 gatekeeper behind the fence?
AssassinsMace
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远距相控阵多目标火控雷达。中国的战斗机载火控雷达技术在借鉴了法国和俄国技术后，已经有了极大进步。在此基础上，中国自己研制的新型相控阵机载雷达已经定型，据说原型先是装在歼11B上进行实验，待歼-20正式定型服役时，将会正式装备该型雷达。美国的F-22战斗机在进入作战区域前，一般都是依靠地面探测雷达、空中的预警飞机和天空的预警卫星所探测到的信息，利用实时数据链来实现信息共享。歼14服役后，预计将会主要依靠地基雷达来获得目标信息，未来估计中国除了大力发展空基预警飞机外，雷达预警卫星也会列入中国军方的发展之列。
this according to the russian,protoype radar already been produced,and flight tested on J-11B.
F-22 using "fuse sensor" (AWACS and satelite) to track and intercept any aerial or gound target, China may also follow similiar step.
this according to the russian,protoype radar already been produced,and flight tested on J-11B.
F-22 using "fuse sensor" (AWACS and satelite) to track and intercept any aerial or gound target, China may also follow similiar step.
MiG-29
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it does not make sense at all, most J-10s are less than a decade old some are less than 1 year old, same is J-11/Su-27, tell me why you replace engines that have 7-5 years old?
That does not make sense at all, aircraft like the F-14 were re engined but if China has WS-10 why you will spend money in a foreign engine? you will re engine 120 J-10 that have less than 7-5 years? that is just fantasy, tell me how many J-10s are build in China annually?
China might built 100 J-10s if the J-10 is exported, the F-16 is exported and build in Europe, Turkey, Korea and Japoan (AKA F-2) but F-16s use american engines.
why you will re-engine a mere 120 aircraft if you can build 100 J-10s with WS-10?
So the mostly likely reality is China builds 20-30 annualy and the Al-31s are going to be used for new J-10s and perhaps iin 2015 they will use WS-10s, but now the WS-10 is not ready an if WS-10 is not ready WS-15 is not even flying.
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