J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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kyanges

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Whatever it is, if it's for the J-20, then there's no super stealthy, rectangular nozzles coming then. Unless it's what the J-20's using now.

...right?
 

challenge

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the engine ,if I remeber correctly appear in 2008 Zuhai airshow.likely improve RD-33.
giving the size of the engine, her T:W ratio still below that of EJ-2000.
if you look at EJ-2000, the first reaction was the compactness of the engine yet delivery powerful thrust.
 

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J-20 is out once again. They are packing the brake chutes right now. Hopefully it'll take off soon. Those who know Chinese keep an eye on this thread:

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A.Man

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Waiting For The Videos Of This New Test Flight!

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Is This Photo Without PS?
 

Deino

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Is this real ?? ... IMO it looks psed ?!! ... if You look about 1-2 cm around the J-20 the photo seems to have a slightly different colour and resolution.

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I freaking hate word play. Look at this:

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J-20: Not Effectively Operational Before 2018, U.S. Says
Posted by Robert Wall at 8/25/2011 2:09 AM CDT

In its first report to Congress on China's military capability since the first flight of the J-20, the Pentagon says it "does not expect the J-20 to achieve an effective operational capability prior to 2018."

That does not mean the U.S. Defense Department shrugs off the development entirely. "The appearance of this prototype underscores the level of [Chinese] investment in advanced defense systems," the report states.

The Pentagon sees "several hurdles" before the J-20 enters production, but names only one challenge: "the mastery of high-performance jet engine production."

In many respects the J-20 timeline is impressive, though, especially compared to the Pentagon's own development timelines or that of other western programs.

If you assume the J-20 is merely an early prototype, achieving an in-service capability within seven years is much faster than anything the Pentagon could deliver.

The F-22's prototype, the YF-22, first flew in 1990, but the system was not fielded until 2005. If the Pentagon's J-20 projection holds, the Chinese program also would beat the U.S. Air Force program even if you use the 1997 F-22 first flight date.

The Eurofighter Typhoon would be another example: first flight (of DA1) in 1994; Italy declares initial operational capability in 2005, the first operator to do so. The story for Rafale is no different.

The real race is on between the J-20 and the Russian T-50 (PAK-FA). The T-50 first flew in early 2010 and Russia wants the system to be fielded in 2014.


Putting it another way -- J-20: Effectively Operationally Effective by 2018, US says. I mean even now when they admit their previous predictions from years past was wrong, they still twist it to make it sound like being operational by 2018 is a massive dissapointment or taking far too long on the PLAAF's part.
 
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