J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

stannislas said:

Because CCTV specifically said "王海大队", which is almost certain 8 jets, I can't tell how many j-20 they have now, but at that very moment, yes, only 8 or 9!

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If a news report says Glorious Red Army 3rd Battalion has received new vehicles, you don't interpret that to mean only 3rd Battalion has received new vehicles; that entire brigade has begun receiving new vehicles except the journalist chose to only interview 3rd Battalion.

9th Brigade began receiving J-20s in early 2019, it's been more than a year. It's highly likely they've finished receiving a full brigade's complement of J-20s by now if not much earlier.

I find the claim of 60 J-20s (even including prototypes) dubious. Even with the new batch of WS-10 equipped J-20s I think 40 airframes is pushing it.

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Well, this is interesting. We have a source of the highest credibility outright stating that China has 60 J-20s, and people here dispute it because...

siegecrossbow said:

I find the claim of 60 J-20s (even including prototypes) dubious. Even with the new batch of WS-10 equipped J-20s I think 40 airframes is pushing it.

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Interstellar said:

Simply impossible, even counting in those prototypes.

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I think disputing pupu's claim should take more than one or two sentences. Have either of you toured CAC's production facilities and determined their output capacity?

Reliable?
two seater J20 // Su 34?

chinois49 said:

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two seater J20 // Su 34?

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Well, You're new to the forum, I suppose. People who have been here longer usually ignore the name "Minnie Chan".

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Interstellar said:

Simply impossible, even counting in those prototypes.

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ZeEa5KPul said:

Well, this is interesting. We have a source of the highest credibility outright stating that China has 60 J-20s, and people here dispute it because...


I think disputing pupu's claim should take more than one or two sentences. Have either of you toured CAC's production facilities and determined their output capacity?

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Pupu clarified his statement by saying that the 60 number includes all the J-20s produced this year (we still have over 4 months of production left).

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Oh well Minnie again ... has anyone seen this "unveiled" concept? Where was it revealed? Was it again her secret "unnamed source close to ..."?

And where is this a twin seater?

FC-31 makes sense pre-EMAL days.

With EMALs, you can easily develop a carrier-borne variant of J-20 with reinforced launch/arrest landing gear and foldable wings.

Unless FC-31 can incorporate every one of J-20's proven sensor/avionic/weapons package, there is literally no benefit to go for FC-31 over a more proven mature platform like J-20.

To me, FC-31 seems like a export prototype for to assist Pakistan's Project Azm 5th gen project (similar to JF-17 joint fighter) to offset Russo-Indo PAKFA FGFA. In fact, post PAKFA FGA cancellation, we seen less impetus to develop FC-31 amirite?

Honestly, I don't care, China needs to pump out these 5th gen birds like sausages because it's going to be a numbers game ultimately.