J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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by78

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aubzman

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Regarding export of J-20 to Pakistan.

I don't think Pakistan will pursue this option for the time being anyway unless India nears a 5th gen platform. The fastest they can get it is F-35s, which would mean alot of changes to their existing infrastructure to keep it away from Russian hardware, imagine UAE couldn't agree to those strict conditions. Next is their own development, I don't think they'll have anything credibly operational in next 15 years and they re pursuing something in same wt class as f-31, which would be alot more mature platform than J-20. Apart from that, there is also news of PAF working with TAI platform, so tbh, PAF has more credible options than InAF regarding 5th gens.

And again, Pakistan as a policy will not introduce 5th gen unless India does so.

Frankly speaking in 15 years, a credible export oriented j-20 variant would be more than good enough to counter any Indian 5th gen option locally developed.
Isn't the J20 expensive? How could Pakistan afford to buy a squadron of them at all even if China was willing to sell them?
 

aubzman

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PAF aside, once J-20 production ramps up, price per unit gonna come down.
No disrespect to Pakistan but, if the J20 has the same price profile as the F22, for example, then China will need to produce a, technical term here, "a shit ton", of J20's to get the price affordable for Pakistan.
 

FriedButter

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No disrespect to Pakistan but, if the J20 has the same price profile as the F22, for example, then China will need to produce a, technical term here, "a shit ton", of J20's to get the price affordable for Pakistan.
I don’t see why they wouldn’t produce “a shit ton.” The J20 is the biggest modern upgrade that the PLAAF have gotten in quite some time and 6th gen is years away. So the J20 will be the main focal point of the PLAAF for the next 1-2 decades.
 

phrozenflame

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No disrespect to Pakistan but, if the J20 has the same price profile as the F22, for example, then China will need to produce a, technical term here, "a shit ton", of J20's to get the price affordable for Pakistan.

Isn't the J20 expensive? How could Pakistan afford to buy a squadron of them at all even if China was willing to sell them?
We are talking 15-20 years into the future and I don't think J-20 processes had the same mistakes as f-22 which ramped up it's prices.
 

Derpy

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Isn't the consensus that we should be looking at f35 prices and not f22 when trying to guestimate price for j-20s?
J20 is a twin engine fighter and about 40% larger in size. You need to first modify for that and then again for the lower wage cost in China.

(at which point you may end up at a similar price to the F35 but that's coincidental)
 
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