J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

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I don't give a cr4p about F-35 because we're talking about J-20 here, not F-35. Why are you so insistent about bringing F-35 into the discussion?

The facts are:
- There are workers who passed away at their workplaces at Chengdu AC (Yankee & Co. even used the phrase "有同志在工作岗位牺牲");
- Chengdu AC has pretty much reached their celling with regards to J-20 production at present; and
- The PLAAF deems necessary to bring J-35A into active service to meet the PLAAF's demand for 5th-gens as soon as possible (whlist also somewhat helping out Chengdu AC).

Which one of these is so hard for you to process and understand? Because I didn't see any. Unless your purpose is just to 鸡蛋里挑骨头 (picking bones from an egg) because of just how you feel something should or shouldn't be like, then I believe there's nothing to discuss here.
J-20 production has reached a ceiling without new facilities. It is indeed much needed to continue transforming the airforce with new facilities and also bring in competitors to Chengdu. That's nothing I haven't said.

What I disagree on is adopting highly questionable terminology that implies claims that have no basis in reality about production plants. Like I said, nobody works any more than they want to or can get scheduled in program like J-20. If someone eats fast food or smoke cigs every day because they're focused on being an engineer then eventually gets a stroke or becomes morbidly obese, that's not called dying from overwork! Nobody sane will ever say that.

My point about F-35 program still stands, there has surely been more than 2 people passing away in the whole duration of that program, and the words "died from overwork" is not used by them to describe whenever their engineers pass away for 1 reason or another, so why should it be used by us?? Care to justify why?
 

latenlazy

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J-20 production has reached a ceiling without new facilities. It is indeed much needed to continue transforming the airforce with new facilities and also bring in competitors to Chengdu. That's nothing I haven't said.

What I disagree on is adopting highly questionable terminology that implies claims that have no basis in reality about production plants. Like I said, nobody works any more than they want to or can get scheduled in program like J-20. If someone eats fast food or smoke cigs every day because they're focused on being an engineer then eventually gets a stroke or becomes morbidly obese, that's not called dying from overwork! Nobody sane will ever say that.

My point about F-35 program still stands, there has surely been more than 2 people passing away in the whole duration of that program, and the words "died from overwork" is not used by them to describe whenever their engineers pass away for 1 reason or another, so why should it be used by us?? Care to justify why?
You are now completely off topic. No one really cares if the F-35 program accidentally killed more people from overwork than the J-20 program. This is an incredibly stupid thing to get obsessed about and turn into a comparison/superiority contest, and it’s completely beside the point from the anecdote. Please stop.
 

Index

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You are now completely off topic. No one really cares if the F-35 program accidentally killed more people from overwork than the J-20 program. This is an incredibly stupid thing to get obsessed about and turn into a comparison/superiority contest and beside the point from the anecdote. Please stop.
Dont make outrageous and pointless claims about the J-20 program in the first place then?

Don't obsess about 2 people passing in a project of like 10 000+ and make insane overinterpretation. Please stop.
 

by78

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Three nice images to start the week.

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Aval

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No. These two photos shows the best contrast.

While the canards may just clip the side weapon bay doors under certain angles if the plane was on the ground, the deflection needed to do that is so extreme the plane would almost instantly kill the pilot and disinterested mid air.

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I was looking for images like this, thank you! It was hard to judge scale and angle from the much more common side-shots, especially since those usually also didn't have the side weapon bay doors open.
 

iBBz

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This video claims the WS-15 will have thrust vectoring. Is that true? This is the first time I've come across this claim regarding this engine.

 
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