Measuring the centerline wing root and the wing tip, I also got wing area of 73.3 sqm.
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI
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My wing area measure was about 77-79 m^2, but I'm assuming a wingspan of 13 m and a length of 20.6 m.Measuring the centerline wing root and the wing tip, I also got wing area of 73.3 sqm.
I posted the following in CDF in response to Deino's estimates, because I think they might be a bit off. Some of the points here are points I made earlier in this thread, but I can't go back and edit earlier posts. Apologies for the repetition.
"I personally think Deino slightly overestimated the length and slightly underestimated the wingspan. For the J-20 he chose to use (the one on the right) you can see the vertical tail extends further out than the stingers, but in the plane in the center this is not the case. This suggests some degree of distortion, where because the vertical tails are taller they're closer to the camera, and will seem bigger, which can make them look like they're extending out more. Because of that I would recommend using the stinger as the tip of the tail end of the plane and not the vertical tails. I'll also note that the Flanker in the center of the image is positioned slightly at an angle relative to the J-20s. If you draw a straight line from tip to tip of that Flanker both lengthwise and widthwise, that slight angle will have the effect of making the Flanker seem both shorter and wider than the J-20 than it actually is, which in turn will skew estimates of the J-20's dimensions toward longer and narrower. My recommendation would be to isolate the Flanker in the center and rotate it a half a degree or slightly more to straighten it up first before taking measures."
"I personally think Deino slightly overestimated the length and slightly underestimated the wingspan. For the J-20 he chose to use (the one on the right) you can see the vertical tail extends further out than the stingers, but in the plane in the center this is not the case. This suggests some degree of distortion, where because the vertical tails are taller they're closer to the camera, and will seem bigger, which can make them look like they're extending out more. Because of that I would recommend using the stinger as the tip of the tail end of the plane and not the vertical tails. I'll also note that the Flanker in the center of the image is positioned slightly at an angle relative to the J-20s. If you draw a straight line from tip to tip of that Flanker both lengthwise and widthwise, that slight angle will have the effect of making the Flanker seem both shorter and wider than the J-20 than it actually is, which in turn will skew estimates of the J-20's dimensions toward longer and narrower. My recommendation would be to isolate the Flanker in the center and rotate it a half a degree or slightly more to straighten it up first before taking measures."
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I measure 12.71 m wingspan and 20.93 m length, using 21.9 m length for Su-35.
But what has this all do do with the Su-35 ??? These are clearly J-16s.
I just realized we may not be able to get a precise wing area using these pictures. I'm not 100% certain about this yet, but there might be a slight distortion that lengthens vertical dimensions relative to horizontal ones in the picture. I remember checking to see if I could get to a 14.7 meter wingspan for the Flanker using the relative ratios between the length and wingspan of the plane, and fell just short (we can still get a reasonable wingspan estimate by comparing the ratio of the J-20's wingspan to the Flanker's though I think). You may want to check this for yourself just to be sure.
And what about the weapons bay " genius" ? what you want sometimes report can be unpleasant !
But it is not real life...
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Major face-palm! These are J-16. There camo should have been the 1st give away. Regardless, Su-30MKK is 21.93m with the pitot-tube. Are the J-16 dimensions identical to the MKK/MK2?
Thought the Taihang engines should've given them away.
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