J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Deino

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Appears so. How else can you explain the flankers' presence?


To admit my fist spot was on the two Flankers - and there's another yellow bird left besides that white Flanker too - and as such I thought it was taken at SAC showing a J-15S and a J-16 ... but indeed the J-20 is a clear hint that this site is at the CFTE.
 

by78

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This is somewhat J-20 related. I'm posting it here because there is nowhere else to put it.

China is apparently working on a stealth weapon pod... Below are some excerpts from a design study. You can see in the first photo that there were four preliminary designs, of which 'C' is the most satisfactory one.


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SinoSoldier

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This is somewhat J-20 related. I'm posting it here because there is nowhere else to put it.

China is apparently working on a stealth weapon pod... Below are some excerpts from a design study. You can see in the first photo that there were four preliminary designs, of which 'C' is the most satisfactory one.


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The only reasonable platform for the pod at this moment would be the FC-31 and J-20, possibly for carrying heavy anti-surface loads. Older generation aircraft like the J-10C, J-15A, and J-16 have sufficiently high an RCS to render any LO pods useless.
 

siegecrossbow

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This is somewhat J-20 related. I'm posting it here because there is nowhere else to put it.

China is apparently working on a stealth weapon pod... Below are some excerpts from a design study. You can see in the first photo that there were four preliminary designs, of which 'C' is the most satisfactory one.


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I think the FC-31 (J-31?) will be the primary beneficiary of this weapons-pod since it didn't come equipped with internal side-bays.
 

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The only reasonable platform for the pod at this moment would be the FC-31 and J-20, possibly for carrying heavy anti-surface loads. Older generation aircraft like the J-10C, J-15A, and J-16 have sufficiently high an RCS to render any LO pods useless.

Boeing and their "Advanced Super Hornet" would like to have a word with you :p
 

AlyxMS

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Oh, I do think J-10B/Cs could benefit from a stealth weapons pod...
I think the major problem here is the vertical/non-canted rudder of the Flanker/J-10, making stealth very difficult. (There's nothing they can do about the J-10 since it had a single rudder, if they decide to modify the Flanker Silent Eagle style then it's a different story)While the Hornet with its canted rudders had a much better chance.
 

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I think the major problem here is the vertical/non-canted rudder of the Flanker/J-10, making stealth very difficult. (There's nothing they can do about the J-10 since it had a single rudder, if they decide to modify the Flanker Silent Eagle style then it's a different story)While the Hornet with its canted rudders had a much better chance.

I think the difference in RCS between having a single vertical tail vs two canted tails on what are obviously 4 gen or 4+ gen airframes at best are very minor -- the major difference in RCS would be from the side aspect, where canted tails means radar will not be reflected immediately back at the source like a 90 degree vertical tail would.

But from the frontal aspect, it shouldn't really matter whether it's a single vertical tail or two canted tails; if anything the two canted tails may present a larger reflective surface than a single vertical tail from the frontal aspect.


At the very least, I don't think Super Hornet has any major airframe differences (canted tails included) from an airframe like J-10B/C that makes the prospect of putting stealthy weapon pods on Super Hornet a significantly more useful/viable option than on J-10B/C.


In fact, when talking about stealthy weapons pods it may be more important to consider the overall size of differing respective aircraft instead of only their pre-existing RCS.
 
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