J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

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Blitzo

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Really ... I thought this is Daocheng ??
Indeed, located within Sichuan, it is however under the administration of the Garze Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture.

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So they are performing high-altitude tests (4,411 m)?
As far as I remember correctly, the Y-20 did the same there in June 2015.

Deino

Yes, but Garze is within Sichuan province, so definitely not Tibet proper.


This is a stretch, but could the high-altitude tests be related to the eventual integration of a new (possibly WS-15) prototype engine?

Yes, it is a stretch, and no we have no reason to suspect that at all.
 

Totoro

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There's no way of guessing how much lighter structure is due to tech. Volume of J20 is roughly 20% bigger than that of F22. Various subsystem weight are impossible to calculate. So we're pretty much in the dark and we will probably remain so for years if not a decade. I personally would be surprised J20 is any lighter than F22 but with no way of proving anything it's just a personal bet.
 

siegecrossbow

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From what I've heard the Chinese military is doing high altitude testing . Interesting how they landed it in a place where civilians might see it easily. I know that there are many duel-use airports in China but... Isn't the J-20 too important for them?
 

taxiya

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Only idiot answer, fake and/or meaningless arguments and now in more you go for bias, your not honnest, serious again less fair... pffffff :rolleyes:

It is the "2011" only in 2014 which is the first J-20 proto with the EOTS, soo undoubtedly Chinese can, have time for copied...i don' t say have do... :cool:
But what is there to copy really if one can not get the original SW code and HW's internal wire diagram?

Contrary to what general population may think, the idea of something is not that difficult to come up, that is to say the shape of of EOTS, or the wanted functionality. The real challenge, therefor the real valuables worth to copy, is the details of implementation. The devil is inside.

That is what I know from years of real life R&D, HW&SW architecture. Steve Jobs can just say "I want a phone with touch, zoom and sweep". Any one of us can come up with it. But It costs years of hundred engineers to make it actually work. Steve won't make that idea a secret except for commercial reasons. But he surely guarded the lab where the engineers worked like NSA guarding their secrete. One of my friends works in smart phone brand, he told me that every company has similar ideas in their road maps, none of them say it, the only thing they really care to "spy/know" is the time table and specification of their competitors.
 

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J-20 (recently sighted in Yading airport) in flight!

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FORBIN

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Possible a J-20 to 107 millions € , 120 mill $, fly away cost.

We do not know the exact price of J-20 today, but for example knows his coating costs more than 2 million Yuan (268 k €) per m 2, or its AESA radar antenna is more than 100 million Yuan (~ € 13m).

Some rumors speak of no less than 800 million Yuan, more than 107 million euro, for a J-20 key in hand. Although it is only rumors, but the amount seems consistent.
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