J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

[Deino]

Guys ... I can understand that the lack of information on the J-20 drives You crazy ... but can we come back to the topic !???

Deino

 

[vesicles]

The third picture is more exposed than the second picture, and yet we see the same marked difference in the color of the 2 aircraft.

Come on guys. Color is the least reliable indicator for judging authenticity of a photo. Lighting, shadows, different camera used, any accidentily activates/deactivated functions on the camera, etc all contribute. This is especially true with the J-20. I haven't found two photos of the J-20 with identical color schemes. It seems to look different every time you turn your head.

 

[Quickie]

Also keep in mind lighting, shadows, and white and black points. These can all vary significantly, especially if there's post processing involved. I think what it comes down to is that we shouldn't expect consistency in the colours of the 2012 in the two pics because there's no consistency between other things that should be consistent, like the colour of the grass.

I did check a few of the 2011 pictures showing it in a darker grey, but it is noticeably different from the dark grey of the 2012 in the 2nd picture, which to me seems to be closer to that of the 2001/2002.

 

[latenlazy]

I did check a few of the 2011 pictures showing it in a darker grey, but it is noticeably different from the dark grey of the 2012 in the 2nd picture, which to me seems to be closer to that of the 2001/2002.

2011 was also a green-gray. In my opinion they seem pretty much identical in color. 2011 came out when Chengdu was covered in cloud and fog. 2012 is coming out when the weather is sunnier and clearer. That's going to have an effect on color. My advice is if you still want to compare the two look for two pictures with similar lighting conditions. Use the color of background objects as reference.

 

[Jeff Head]

It's a bit of a throw back, but you guys may be interested in the progress I am making on my J-20, aircraft number 2001 model.

The thread about the build is here on SD. Here's a link with some of the latest pictures:

PLAAF J-20 Prototype 2001 in 1/72 Scale
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You can see some of the cockpit details in the last one. Good instrumentation, ejections seat, even have the harness/straps on the seat.

I have quite a few details in the landing gear bays, the exterior sensors on the aircraft, and then all of the markings yet to do.

Cheers!

 

[ladioussupp]

Two new photos

 

[Quickie]

2011 was also a green-gray. In my opinion they seem pretty much identical in color. 2011 came out when Chengdu was covered in cloud and fog. 2012 is coming out when the weather is sunnier and clearer. That's going to have an effect on color. My advice is if you still want to compare the two look for two pictures with similar lighting conditions. Use the color of background objects as reference.

My advice is if you still want to compare the two look for two pictures with similar lighting conditions. Use the color of background objects as reference.

I did take the different lighting conditions into consideration, like for example the second picture is more exposed but the silvery paint is not as standout as in the first picture, which is contrary to what one would expect. Type of camera would have an impact but it wouldn't have an effect to that extent in my opinion, since they are built within manufacturing specifications.

 

[latenlazy]

I did take the different lighting conditions into consideration, like for example the second picture is more exposed but the silvery paint is not as standout as in the first picture, which is contrary to what one would expect. Type of camera would have an impact but it wouldn't have an effect to that extent in my opinion, since they are built within manufacturing specifications.

Over exposure works differently in different lighting conditions. If you're in shadow or if most of the light is being reflected away from your camera colors end up turning deeper, but you'll get areas that are blown out. If you just have bright conditions and/or light is being reflected in your direction everything just gets blown out. If you further factor in fog or haze colors can be dampened, and nearly all the pictures we had of 2011 were hazy. For example initial pictures of 2001 looked black until we had a picture of 2001 with the sun out, and we found out the paint was actually a dark green.

Camera make makes a HUGE difference. So do different lenses. And post processing.

Finally, I would point out that paint will have different colors under different lighting conditions and angles, depending on its properties.

 

[Quickie]

Camera make makes a HUGE difference. So do different lenses. And post processing.

The difference would be in terms of sharpness and clarity, much less on image color unless they start using color filter which I doubt so.

 

[latenlazy]

The difference would be in terms of sharpness and clarity, much less on image color unless they start using color filter which I doubt so.

Lenses can affect colour saturation, brightness, etc. which depending on the material can end up showing different shades and even hues.