J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

[latenlazy]

Sigh..... Even when designing a system at this modernity and advancement, backwardness of engine development still is a major bottleneck.
So on the contrary, if there's no engine problem, that means J-20 could be shorter relative to its width? Hence focus more on maneuverability instead of speed and super-cruise?

I'm not sure the J-20 has compromised on maneuvarability for supercruise. If anything, it's probably optimized both while trading off on stealth and simplicity.

Shortening your aircraft isn't the only way to get a good pitch rate. In the J-20's case having long coupled canards and relaxed stability probably provides more than sufficient pitch up ability.

 

[shen]

Sigh..... Even when designing a system at this modernity and advancement, backwardness of engine development still is a major bottleneck.
So on the contrary, if there's no engine problem, that means J-20 could be shorter relative to its width? Hence focus more on maneuverability instead of speed and super-cruise?

J-20 wasn't designed with less powerful engine in mind. It was designed for WS-15 to achieve the three S. But since WS-15 won't be available for the first batch powered by AL-31 (according to some source as soon as the end of the year), supercruise wouldn't be achieve until more powerful engines are available.

 

[A.Man]

Some Official Photos Came Out:

 

[Deino]

... even more !!!

 

[latenlazy]

... even more !!!

REALLY need to see this thing fly to get a better look at the engine nacelles, confirm if the LERXes in front of the canards are still there, see if the main LERXes geometry has changed, and check if the weapons bay got bigger.

 

[SamuraiBlue]

Here's a new one.

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The engine the lower vertical fin and wheel covers are all photo shopped I am afraid to say.
The metallic coloring is completely off from the chart of other components.

The so called official is somewhat photo shopped as well with various color enhancements and some airbrushing on the side as well.

Another interesting point is the vertical fin. I don't know what they are but the first photo has what seems like braces on the outer side while the official has them in the inner side

 

[A.Man]

The engine the lower vertical fin and wheel covers are all photo shopped I am afraid to say.
The metallic coloring is completely off from the chart of other components.

The so called official is somewhat photo shopped as well with various color enhancements and some airbrushing on the side as well.

Another interesting point is the vertical fin. I don't know what they are but the first photo has what seems like braces on the outer side while the official has them in the inner side

The photo was scanned from an official magazine.

 

[kyanges]

Another interesting point is the vertical fin. I don't know what they are but the first photo has what seems like braces on the outer side while the official has them in the inner side

Since the rest of your post asserts photo manipulation, I figure you mean to bring this up as further evidence of such.

The explanation is that the braces are on both sides.


As for your other points, I just checked with a color picker in PS, and none of the coloring is "off the charts". (Unless I'm misunderstanding you.) And the supposed "airbrushing" is just low resolution plus the inevitable loss of quality that comes from scanning a printed page.

 

[Jeff Head]

... even more !!!

I like it.

I like it a lot.

It has to be any day.

 

[Blitzo]

The engine the lower vertical fin and wheel covers are all photo shopped I am afraid to say.
The metallic coloring is completely off from the chart of other components.

Unfortunately colour can be modified due to the type of camera being used or the particular smoggy ness of the day.
So if you are using colour to say it is PSed, you're off mark.

The so called official is somewhat photo shopped as well with various color enhancements and some airbrushing on the side as well.

Dude, there is a difference between using a freaking filter or over exposure, and actually PSing something. That is like arguing black and white photos of 2011 are "somewhat photo shopped". Basically it is a redundant statement, because the word photo shop around these parts suggest it was some intentional modification to the plane or ship in question, to show something that isn't there.

By the way, I wouldn't be so quick to take A man at his word. I doubt that picture is an "official photo," and even if it were, that actually doesn't mean anything

Another interesting point is the vertical fin. I don't know what they are but the first photo has what seems like braces on the outer side while the official has them in the inner side

That just shows you haven't been following the J-20 2011 bird very long.

Both sides of the right tail have those strange little patches, while the left tail only has some on its inner side.



If you're going to accuse something of a PS you typically need more solid evidence than that. And remember, most people here hate PSes, so they'll typically be the first to call it out.