agreed on both counts ace!
Hey player I got to turn the page on this one, what do you think the big change is on 2003 bro?
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J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)
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agreed on both counts ace!
Hey player I got to turn the page on this one, what do you think the big change is on 2003 bro?
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It has always been known that SAC worked on the aft fuselage of the J-20. What is more murky is whether the work involved external aerodynamics or strictly internal structure. From what I have read, the latter seems most likely to be the case.
Well, for starters, I got to say that you, bro, has taken my place to become the honorable Thread Page Turner of the Glorious Sinodenfenceforum!
I hear many people saying that the round conventional exhausts are low tech... I disagree with that. If you move away towards the F22 exhaust then do not forget that one will lose a lot of performance power by changing design. So what do you prefer? improvement of the RCS from your 6 o clock or loss of huge power? I rather have the philosophy that you do not want anyone on your 6 o clock! If you come that close you lost your stealth advantage. So? J20 and J31 exhaust are not that bad as many want to suggest.
I don't think the performance loss is so big that the option can't be considered. As a defense first fighter the 6 o'clock is not very important, but for missions that require deep penetration across unfriendly lines the 6 o'clock is very important.
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i have to say the J-31 numbers do not surprise me
Eurofighter is a 10 tonnes fighter and the older MiG-29 a 10.9 tonnes, so a 12-13 tonnes was expected.
However J-20 seems to be light 17 tonnes is almost what Russia claims for T-50 and smaller than PAKFA, hard to believe that.
However the numbers are rounded and probably not official numbers similar to this video
[video=youtube;qzt7uaNBrI4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzt7uaNBrI4[/video]
but who knows
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Can you say F-22sky boys and girls? I think the boys and girls would agree?
This. The J-20 is a light strike bomber--basically a bigger, longer-ranged, and marginally more expensive F-35. The J-31 is an air-superiority fighter--basically a smaller, shorter-ranged, and somewhat cheaper F-22.
In PLAAF missions, I'd expect to see the J-20 used to launch standoff strikes against high-value targets under conditions of air parity or even air inferiority. The J-31 would be used more in the role of air-superiority first, and some CAS if necessary.
These assertions are highly speculative and out of touch with Dr. Songs specific concerns in developing the J-20 to basically achieve parity with the F-22, to assert otherwise is to ignore not only his position paper, but the design of the J-20 as well, and while it is rather obvious that the J-31 is designed as a nimble air-superiority aircraft, it will likely complement the J-15 on Naval duty, IMHO, not necessarily compete with the J-20 as a PLAAF aircraft. Cheers AFB
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