J-15 carrier fighter thread

[Jovian]

Out of personal interest, I just looked up "military aircraft insignia". In particular I was looking for information on "low-visibility military aircraft insignia" (or low-visibility roundel).

There is a wikipedia page with a section (titled "Current insignia of national air forces") that display the insignia of many countries. Included are "low-visibility" versions too.

Can someone confirm if the "People's Republic of China (low-visibility)" insignia is the actual official insignia or just a fan-based design (given that it is a wikipedia page after all).

If that is indeed an official low-visibility insignia, wondered why the PLAN didn't use them for these J-15.

Just a though


Jovian

 

[Deino]

Out of personal interest, I just looked up "military aircraft insignia". In particular I was looking for information on "low-visibility military aircraft insignia" (or low-visibility roundel).

There is a wikipedia page with a section (titled "Current insignia of national air forces") that display the insignia of many countries. Included are "low-visibility" versions too.

Can someone confirm if the "People's Republic of China (low-visibility)" insignia is the actual official insignia or just a fan-based design (given that it is a wikipedia page after all).

If that is indeed an official low-visibility insignia, wondered why the PLAN didn't use them for these J-15.

Just a though


Jovian

As far as I remember these PLANAF-low vis. markings were only briefly used on H-6D bombers ... but are all replaced by the standard red-yellow one ! (SADLY)

 

[Deino]

Not seen before ....

 

[delft]

Out of personal interest, I just looked up "military aircraft insignia". In particular I was looking for information on "low-visibility military aircraft insignia" (or low-visibility roundel).

There is a wikipedia page with a section (titled "Current insignia of national air forces") that display the insignia of many countries. Included are "low-visibility" versions too.

Can someone confirm if the "People's Republic of China (low-visibility)" insignia is the actual official insignia or just a fan-based design (given that it is a wikipedia page after all).

If that is indeed an official low-visibility insignia, wondered why the PLAN didn't use them for these J-15.

Just a though


Jovian

The low-visibility insignia were developed by USAF to make targetting of aircraft on airbases more difficult for the Vietnamese. This is not relevant to carrier based aircraft.

 

[Deino]

The low-visibility insignia were developed by USAF to make targetting of aircraft on airbases more difficult for the Vietnamese. This is not relevant to carrier based aircraft.

But I think his question was only related to the also shown low vis. PLAAF symbol and not to low vis. markings in general.

 

[delft]

But I think his question was only related to the also shown low vis. PLAAF symbol and not to low vis. markings in general.

PLAAF might have experimented with these but it doesn't now need them.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Not seen before ....

Wow, great picture, note the canards are deflected upward for additional lift/vortices production, flaps down, landing light is illuminating the underside of the nose/nose cone area,,, all in all, very kool!

 

[Jovian]

PLAAF might have experimented with these but it doesn't now need them.

I was just wondering on this point: why the PLAN doesn't use low-visibility insignia. I guess at this point, those brand spanking new J-15 (being their first batch of carrier aircraft that they operate) has as important a role in showing national symbols as in training, R&D, etc. Just look at that huge red coloured Naval Ensign! (that's the PLAN naval ensign right?)

I have also did a quick search for Super-hornet and Rafale. Both carrier based aircraft (carrier based versions). Both uses low-visibility insignia. I am guessing the US Navy did (at least) find that they like low-visibility insignia better. Given that the PLAN appears to be following the practices of the US Navy, I was just wondering why they did not follow in this regard.

Like I mentioned earlier. These J-15 are a source of pride for the PLAN as well as the a fair portion of the PRC citizenry (probably). I guess the (PLAAF and PLAN, etc) believes that at this point it is more important to "show off" (in a nice way) than to make it more difficult to see.

BTW, Deino thanks for sharing the info that the they tried it out on a H-6D.


Jovian

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

At this point the PLA and PLANAF Livery, insignia and Roundel may remain full color, they are normally subdued when the aircraft they are on has been liveried in a full low observable effect. The Grey Schemes of most modern stealth fighters for example are intended to blend into a overcast sky making the fighter somewhat harder to detect visually. Full color livery are still quite common even in the US forces there are aircraft who proudly wear Red White and Blue. the Same for the British and French ecta ecta... The decision to subdue or full color mostly depends on role and doctrine. The US Navy and Marines restrict Subdued to Combat fighters like the Hornet (except of course display teams) and the Harrier well All there other platforms are Full Color Captain America by contrast the USAF subdues everything but the VIP and Thunder birds. So the Question Comes to the commanders and there elected choices. The PLA may decide not to subdue the markings at all. and to date I can only think of one confirmed case of a low visibility marking on a PLA Bird.

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The PLA commanders may feel that the Full color is more inspiring and patriotic so they might keep it.

 

[Blitzo]

At those altitudes and the distances those planes will be flying against each other at, I doubt whether the roundels are coloured or gray will matter.

Besides, quite a few nations with simpler air force roundels are coloured too. Indian Air force, JASDF, RAF, to name a few.