J-15 carrier fighter thread

THX 1138

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Unless I'm mistaken, the vast majority of AL-31F engines have been in service with older PLAAF aircraft like J-10A, J-10B, J-10S, J-11A, and Su-30. If engines were the problem, then those aircraft would have high incidence of crashes too.

Also, all 3 previous J-15 accidents occurred in a span of 15 months. Now this 4th one occurs some 8 years after the last one. It seems unlikely that the cause of the 4th accident is related to the cause of the first three.
 

Alfa_Particle

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Unless I'm mistaken, the vast majority of AL-31F engines have been in service with older PLAAF aircraft like J-10A, J-10B, J-10S, J-11A, and Su-30. If engines were the problem, then those aircraft would have high incidence of crashes too.

Also, all 3 previous J-15 accidents occurred in a span of 15 months. Now this 4th one occurred some 8 years after the last one. It seems unlikely that the cause of the 4th accident is related to the cause of the first three.
Uh... The AL-31Fs are quite literally notoriously responsible for a lot of the J-10 crashes. Be it bird strikes, shaft snapping, whatever.

It's less obvious on twin engine fighters due to their inherent redundancy.
 

THX 1138

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The AL-31Fs are quite literally notoriously responsible for a lot of the J-10 crashes. Be it bird strikes, shaft snapping, whatever.

How many accidents have there been with AL-31F equipped J-10 over the past 10 years? I can't imagine that the accident rate with those aircraft is comparable with the J-15 --- 4 out of 70+ air frames.

And like I said before: the first 3 accidents occurred within a 15 months span, and then this 4th one is 8 years after the last one. That would be very strange for an engine reliability issue.
 

Alfa_Particle

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How many accidents have there been with AL-31F equipped J-10 over the past 10 years? I can't imagine that the accident rate with those aircraft is comparable with the J-15 --- 4 out of 70+ air frames.
J-10s have been around longer though. So limiting it to 10 years would be misleading. 14 mishaps since 2007 and the majority are allegedly engine-related.

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And like I said before: the first 3 accidents occurred within a 15 months span, and then this 4th one is 8 years after the last one. That would be very strange for an engine reliability issue.
This one definitely is an engine failure, however I do know that at least one of the other ones is flight controls-related.
 
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