J-15 carrier fighter thread

siegecrossbow

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Uh... The AL-31Fs are quite literally notoriously responsible for a lot of the J-10 crashes. Be it bird strikes, shaft snapping, whatever.

It's less obvious on twin engine fighters due to their inherent redundancy.

Now that you mentioned it we haven’t really seen any J-10C with WS-10 crashing yet. Maybe give it another five years?
 

AndrewJ

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Some claim the accident happened during landing or taking off. Where is the possible nearby airfield?

Btw, why doesn't PLAN replace AL-31F with WS-10, even on the latest J-15T? That makes me confused. :rolleyes:
 

Alfa_Particle

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Btw, why doesn't PLAN replace AL-31F with WS-10, even on the latest J-15T? That makes me confused. :rolleyes:
We don't know the exact reason. Could be anything from "the naval WS-10 isn't mature yet" to "the pros don't justify the cost, since you're introducing a whole new ecosystem of parts and maintenance definitely won't be happy."

However, given that the WS-10-equipped J-15T debuted in Zhuhai + it's been in testing since forever, I'm leaning towards they're debating whether it's worth it to commit to the switch rather than a technical bottleneck. I do hope that this incident further motivated them to commit and fully leave the AL-31F behind.

Who knows, maybe when the Type 003 is ready, they'll only use WS-10 J-15Ts from a new batch.
 
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sheogorath

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Uh... The AL-31Fs are quite literally notoriously responsible for a lot of the J-10 crashes. Be it bird strikes, shaft snapping, whatever.

It's less obvious on twin engine fighters due to their inherent redundancy.
Blaming bird strikes on the engine itself is silly, to say the least. It can bring down any plane with any engine

Also if the AL-31 was that bad, the incidence of crashes on the entire Flanker family would be bad, specially for the Indians, yet the majority of their crashes aren't even engine related but quality issues with everything else including pilot training
 

Alfa_Particle

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Blaming bird strikes on the engine itself is silly, to say the least. It can bring down any plane with any engine

Also if the AL-31 was that bad, the incidence of crashes on the entire Flanker family would be bad, specially for the Indians, yet the majority of their crashes aren't even engine related but quality issues with everything else including pilot training
To be fair, the AL-31FNs to my knowledge are indeed somehow worse than the standard AL-31Fs due to the different gearbox location and some other changes.
 
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