J-15 carrier fighter thread

Jeff Head

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huh? your statement does not make much sense. Broadly speaking a missile is typically guided while a rocket isn't however there is a fine line because you have unguided missiles and guided rockets so there's that LOL. You typically fire rockets in salvos while your launch a missile one at a time. A missile will have some sort of targeting and guidance system either infrared, laser, TV etc and guided by GPS, TERCOM and/or inertial guidance.

I would say the biggest difference aside from guidance is the launching mechanism. In rockets you have some sort of mechanism like a rail or a launcher pointed at your target while a missile you can just 'drop' or release like in the case of AAMs.

Think of it this way. A missile has a brain while a rocket is 'dumb'.
Well...not always.

A rocket is a projectile or missile that is powered by a rocket engine. Palin and simple, whether guided or not. A rocket engine gets its thrust from propellants that are carried within the body of the rocket itself, put there before use (like a fuel that is mixed with an oxidizer and then ignited to form thrust). Most rockets generally use solid fuels because they are easier to maintain and can be deployed faster, although large ballistic missiles do use liquid fuel rockets. So, sometimes rockets are guided, and when they are, they are usually also referred to as missiles.

Generally, missiles are either rocket propelled (like an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM)) or use something other than a rocket for propulsion, like a jet engine. Generally, when people talk about a missile, they are speaking of a guided missile that uses some form of a jet engine. This is usually a turbojet because they are relatively easy to build and maintain. But turbofans and ramjets are other common engines used in missiles.

Hope that helps.

There is crossover with missiles, but all rockets use a rocket engine. If it does not...then it is not a rocket. A guided missiles can also be a rocket if it uses a rocket engine, but most people refer to jet powered guided missiles when talking about missiles these days.
 

aquauant

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huh? your statement does not make much sense. Broadly speaking a missile is typically guided while a rocket isn't however there is a fine line because you have unguided missiles and guided rockets so there's that LOL. You typically fire rockets in salvos while your launch a missile one at a time. A missile will have some sort of targeting and guidance system either infrared, laser, TV etc and guided by GPS, TERCOM and/or inertial guidance.

I would say the biggest difference aside from guidance is the launching mechanism. In rockets you have some sort of mechanism like a rail or a launcher pointed at your target while a missile you can just 'drop' or release like in the case of AAMs.

Think of it this way. A missile has a brain while a rocket is 'dumb'.

I hope you understand that I was referring to the difference in safety perspectives between guided/unguided missiles that use rocket engines and JATO rockets, not the general definition difference which is obvious from dictionary. Since the safety issue is one major concern that makes JATO not feasible in carrier operation, I was trying to know what kind of safety difference there is.
 

Air Force Brat

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I hope you understand that I was referring to the difference in safety perspectives between guided/unguided missiles that use rocket engines and JATO rockets, not the general definition difference which is obvious from dictionary. Since the safety issue is one major concern that makes JATO not feasible in carrier operation, I was trying to know what kind of safety difference there is.

I do understand and yes you are correct, and I'm assuming that most JATO bottles are actually Rocket propellant, while as bd stated they are dangerous and must be stored in a magazine, air to air and anti-aircraft missles are also dangerous. If the J-15 had been designed with RATO in mind, this would be of more relevant, but that is most unlikely. BDs concern is that operationally the RATO bottles are a hazard, even in normal use, although like you, I can see some circumstance where they would make sense, it is very unlikely they will ever be used......
 

A.Man

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Here is a larger Photo

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Deino

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Regarding these serials ... I still miss an image of '101' ?? :confused:

Deino
 

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Jeff Head

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Here it is :p ... albeit tooooooo small ! :(
A page or two ago I know I posted high res pics of 100-103.

Now we have 104 and 105 too. That's six.

They probably have more completed, just not out and about yet.

The more the merrier.

551-556 = Six
100-105 = Six

Add the two-seater, and then three pure test aircraft and I now count 16 that we can be pretty sure of.
 
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