J-10 Thread IV
- Thread starter Jeff Head
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PLAAF won’t be taking new deliveries.
Just nice images.
Do you happen to remember when was the last time we saw new J-10Cs inducted by PLAAF? I at least can't recall any for the past few years.
There's been RUMINT that some of the older J-10A airframes are in the process of or will soon be replaced by new J-35A production.
No idea if such gossip is in fact true, and if it is accurate, not sure if the older J-10A airframes in question will be transferred to "second line" or "third line" units of some variety, or retired entirely as they approach ~20 years of service.
I personally find such talk a bit suspicious as it probably makes more sense for the J-35A to replace older examples of the J-11, but what do I know.
Regardless, any idea if such chatter holds water?
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J-10CE flying over Islamabad to mark the Pakistan Day.
Another from the same performance.
No one should fear the shutdown of the J-10 Production line. In 2045 Bangladesh will finally order 16 new build J-10s and then in 2058, after mulling about for a replacement, Bangladesh will then order another 16 J-10BGXXX as "Stop gap" fighters. Top level Chengdu officials are fully aware of this development and have written in their wills for their successors to be ready for the long awaited call by the air chief of the BAF.
My god, is our air force procurement pathetic....
Bangladesh GDP is now much higher than Pakistan, they should technically be able to support a much bigger military budget and thus get a lot more fighter jets. Considering all the threats coming from India, its high time they start spending more on the military.
Would be such a waste for production of J-10 to cease when it will be relevant and F-16's will be manufactured for some more considerable time when annual production is to go back up to 48 units per year and backlog for nearly 3 years.
Firstly to the moderators, apology for derailing the thread, but Bangladesh's J-10 Hurdles cannot be explained without looking at wider considerations
If only it were that simple. GDP is too simple a metric to compare us to Pakistan.
Geopolitcal considerations-
Bangladesh is much weaker and more geopolitically compromised than Pakistan. India surrounds us on three broders and our rivers flow through them and we are economically more tied to India than Pakistan is. We are also much more politically compromised by India than Paskitan is. We can't as easily purchase a jet than outclasses all Indian tier 2 planes and matches their Tier 1.
We are also more at the behest of the West than Pakistan is. WHile Pakistan might have a lot of US influence, they have nukes and mid east positions to trade and ply favour. Bangladesh has literally zero bargaining chips with the West, our economy is extremely dependent on the Western nations for exports. The West is also heavily pro India as far as subcontinental politics goes, so India has multiple ways of applying pressure.
Institutional Weakness of the military-
Our military institutions are not as strong as Pakistans and our services outside of the army has almost no political pull. The air force is the worst of the lot. It is by far the single most pathetic and corrupt military branch in South Asia. The air force brass loves doing evaluations and using tax paeyer money to take luxury trips abroad but wont actually buy anything.
Current Political Uncertainty-
The current govt is a caretaker government and does not have the legitimacy to pull of a major acquistion. I know a lot of people paint Hasina as an Indian lapdog, but ironically our best chance to get J-10s was under her rule. No other leader in our Country's history brought us closer to China than her. She played India and the other big powers masterfully. During the last so called elections, China openly expressed support for Hasina whent he west was calling the elections a sham, something China had never done before.
Over all I personally believe than Bangladesh buying the J-10 is inevitable. Our Airforce is barely held together and J-10 is the only logical solution. going forward. Our relation with China and our Airforce's experience with Chinese jets and our over all military import trend all point to eventual J-10 purchase. But the pessimist in me fears that it will take a long long time.