J-10 Thread IV

siegecrossbow

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The artist released a revised edition with a notch above the engine nozzle so there's clearance for the TVC to manoeuvre. Hints to a fresh airframe if that's the case.

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Curious how we haven't seen any real photo yet.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Interesting

But would this warrant a J10D designation?

Frame is J10C engine is thurt vectoring

Better manoeuvrability
 

Inst

Captain
It's an insider leak. He can't post pictures, but he can post cartoons, and unusually detailed ones at that. It's reasonable for the J-10 to move to TVC; if thrust is significantly increased to 140+ kN, then CFTs to extend aircraft range on the PLAAF's mass striker aircraft become viable. But while thrust increases can compensate for acceleration losses, they can't compensate for agility losses, which is where TVC comes in. Then the PLAAF has a high-low combination of Chengdu J-10s and J-20s; the former being used to strike and provide clean-up fire, while the latter is used for air superiority and anti-radar roles.
 

FORBIN

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It's an insider leak. He can't post pictures, but he can post cartoons, and unusually detailed ones at that. It's reasonable for the J-10 to move to TVC; if thrust is significantly increased to 140+ kN, then CFTs to extend aircraft range on the PLAAF's mass striker aircraft become viable. But while thrust increases can compensate for acceleration losses, they can't compensate for agility losses, which is where TVC comes in. Then the PLAAF has a high-low combination of Chengdu J-10s and J-20s; the former being used to strike and provide clean-up fire, while the latter is used for air superiority and anti-radar roles.
Yes... at least his cartoons. So far seems quite credible and his drawings are so much detailed that they - at least from what I've heard - indeed match the details he cannot show on photos.
So we trust cartoons :)
 

Inst

Captain
It's interesting that the Chinese are going all-out on their fourth generation aircraft. The J-10 is not a Rafale or Eurofighter; the design isn't sufficiently optimized for that, but the addition of TVC means that J-10s are now more agile than Rafales and Eurofighters. It's sort of the Flankers all over again; the initial Flankers were somewhat outmatched by 4.5th gens, but the fact that 4.5th gens became somewhat abandonware; the TVC on the Eurofighters were eventually ditched due to cost and expense issues, and CAESAR radar took too long, meant that the Flankers became capable of outmatching the Eurofighters.

The only thing missing on the J-10D is the canard-LERX layout seen on the J-20 and upgraded onto the Eurofighters. It can't be that hard to install small LERX for that purpose.
 
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