J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)
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It's not the number 4 that's weird. The weird part is that they have different numbers in different regiment. It's hard to determine what's considered to be a regiment when it comes to special missions aircraft. And you will see this when you look through all of the available photos for different high new types. They are rarely multiples of 4.
There is no such thing as squadron in plaaf, you have divisions, then regiments and then dadui. There are 3 to 4 regiments per complete division and 3 to 4 dadui per regiment. It is possible to have mixed regiment, although a lot of times it's hard to say if that's caused by the conversion process or what.
So, we have 6 regiments right now (not sure if they are all fully converted yet, especially with 24th division), so we can expect around 6 x 28 = 168 from these regiments + 20 for FTTC (which should also be considered for combat), so around 188. As for engine, they got an order for 122 AL-31FN on top of the 154 from a few years ago.
FugitiveVisions
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This article is really interesting, thanks for posting. It mentions that orders from the top has this regiment moving to a sister base in Dec for training and exercises (possibly Dingxin?) so they are in a hurry to prepare pilots, and that the conversion phase is divided into three years, with combat readiness for a single squadron being the goal for the first year and the entire regiment for the second year. If this is indeed the 9th, that would explain why we only saw four J10s in the Shantou AB earlier in 2008. This might also indicate that regiments are formed concurrently, with initial squadrons forming operational capabilities to support the arrival of more equipment later.
maozedong
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J-10 already deployed in North East China, North China, East China, West South China, Now, it has been deployed in South China,the military's intention is very clear that all these regional face to wars potential crises.
North West China deploy J-11, later will be J-11B, they are long range, as support air force for Sino-India border.
some source say next time J-10 will be deployed to 4th division.
this is Lee Feng who is the head of 25th Regiment, 9th division,To obtain once first class merit, once second-class merit, third class merit 4 times. March 7, 2009, Li Feng in a air distress incident major special situations,he has saved a new type of China-made third-generation fighters in order to collect data on aircraft forced to land in an empty slip made a significant contribution, the Air Force gave him first class merit and grant "Air Force Merit Gold Medal for flying personnel", won the 13th session of the" China 5.4 Youth medals. "
李峰，安徽灵璧人，1971年4月出生，1989年8月入伍，1993年11月入党，本科学历，空军上校军衔，特级飞行员，昼夜间指挥员、教员、四机长机，现任空军航空兵某团团长，荣立一等功一次，二等功一次，三等功4次。2009年3月7 日，李峰在处置一起重大空中特情中挽救了一架国产第三代新型战机，为收集战机空滑迫降数据作出了重大贡献，空军为他记一等功并授予“空军功勋飞行人员金质荣誉奖章”，荣获第十三届“中国青年五四奖章”
North West China deploy J-11, later will be J-11B, they are long range, as support air force for Sino-India border.
some source say next time J-10 will be deployed to 4th division.
this is Lee Feng who is the head of 25th Regiment, 9th division,To obtain once first class merit, once second-class merit, third class merit 4 times. March 7, 2009, Li Feng in a air distress incident major special situations,he has saved a new type of China-made third-generation fighters in order to collect data on aircraft forced to land in an empty slip made a significant contribution, the Air Force gave him first class merit and grant "Air Force Merit Gold Medal for flying personnel", won the 13th session of the" China 5.4 Youth medals. "
李峰，安徽灵璧人，1971年4月出生，1989年8月入伍，1993年11月入党，本科学历，空军上校军衔，特级飞行员，昼夜间指挥员、教员、四机长机，现任空军航空兵某团团长，荣立一等功一次，二等功一次，三等功4次。2009年3月7 日，李峰在处置一起重大空中特情中挽救了一架国产第三代新型战机，为收集战机空滑迫降数据作出了重大贡献，空军为他记一等功并授予“空军功勋飞行人员金质荣誉奖章”，荣获第十三届“中国青年五四奖章”
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we have one-liner rules in this forum, in the future, please actually make better efforts at commenting on these things.
What the heck are you talking about? J-10 is deployed to the elite divisions first as expected and then deployed to guard Beijing and then to Taiwan zone. That's what happened to the flankers too.
Londo Molari
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I noticed in the video above that when J-10 landed, it used chute to slow down, but the canards remained straight. Can canards be used as wind brakes? Or would it simply put too much pressure on the forward landing gear? Or would it swivel the aircraft out of control since they are located at the front?
Once you put bombs or fuel tanks on, then the TWR will drop, as with all fighters.
It depends on the loading. With no weapons, and fuel tanks most modern fighters have A T:W ratio over 1. if you watch the J-10 demo linked above, you can see that it flies straight upwards right after take-off showing that it does indeed have a TWR > 1.
Once you put bombs or fuel tanks on, then the TWR will drop, as with all fighters.
what there is to comment? it simply a video that would be hard to find, one don't not type Chinese. Well, if you force me to comment:
1. the J-10 flew in normal PLAAF paint job, I guess people hate the "new" airshow paint job enough, that PLAAF has to go back the drawing board.
2. it did a vertical take off, and made some pretty looking maneuvers. Though it's still not as good as the blue angles show I saw last month at fleet week. But then I did the angles live and not though internet video.
3. the CCTV host is as clueless as one can imagine, so much that the test pilot dude is noticeably annoyed.
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