J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[asif iqbal]

Why not making such a daring assumption; the J-10 with 201 serial number is NOT a J-10C. It may be anything but not a followed up version (A, B then C) of the J-10?!!

Which brings me back to my original point why have a follow up version running in parallel with J10B why not do a actual follow up and see it after first J10B regiment is operational??

Surely they would get the first J10B regiment operational find the pros and cons iron out the bugs then in-cooperate the solved issues on the J10C??

That's why I have a feeling that it maybe a export variant but that's just my personal opinion

 

[Franklin]

Why not making such a daring assumption; the J-10 with 201 serial number is NOT a J-10C. It may be anything but not a followed up version (A, B then C) of the J-10?!!

Remenber it is we on the internet who call these planes J-10 A, B or C, those are not official designations. What ever these planes are called I believe that the 201 is an improved version of the J-10B probably benefitting from trickle down technology from the J-20 program.

201 indicate the first plane of the second batch. The extra antenna underneath shows changes to the electronic and avionic suite. The first batch already has 27 planes at the least and we don't know how much more is to come. So if they would start producing the new J-10 version somewhere next year it will be already 2 years between the production of the 2 different models. Not at all too long to make new improvements especially if they can borrow a little bit here and there from the J-20 program. Or maybe the upgrades are not that drastic that it merrits a new designation of its own and we are just getting ahead of ourselfs here.

The reason why there are 2 parallel development is perhabs that the PLAAF don't want to wait for another 18 months to 2 years to get there new upgraded J-10's. And they don't want to buy a new batch of the old J-10's. So the first batch may come in a large number like 40+ planes or more that gives some logistical and economic sense to have 2 different variants of the same plane.

But this is part of the fun following PLA developments as they don't give any official specs or statements so it becomes one giant guessing game! Your guesses are as good as mine.

 

[Deino]

Remenber it is we on the internet who call these planes J-10 A, B or C, those are not official designations. What ever these planes are called I believe that the 201 is an improved version of the J-10B probably benefitting from trickle down technology from the J-20 program.

Yo, ... YES and No. Át least the A, S, AS, H, SH, AY and SY ... and I'm sure the B too are "official" PLAAF designations in the same way the J-7II, III, (aka C), E, G, and so on are official.

However - and that's my point - I actually doubt that there is an official C-designation exactly due to the following argument:

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201 indicate the first plane of the second batch. The extra antenna underneath shows changes to the electronic and avionic suite. The first batch already has 27 planes at the least and we don't know how much more is to come. So if they would start producing the new J-10 version somewhere next year it will be already 2 years between the production of the 2 different models. Not at all too long to make new improvements especially if they can borrow a little bit here and there from the J-20 program. Or maybe the upgrades are not that drastic that it merrits a new designation of its own and we are just getting ahead of ourselfs here.
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YES, it is a second batch production aircraft with "minor" - at least external - changes, which may the mentioned changes that are typical for a second block, but surely not for a new letter. Remember the slightly different changes gradually introduced into the J-10A model from Block 4 on. As such I think it is indeed a bird either already from the second production block, maybe from a second manufacturing line ... and after delivery of these 1-xx-serials we will surely see more with 2-xx numbers followed by 3-xx serials. ... at least I hope so.

Deino

 

[asif iqbal]

I just looked into this little further and looks like first J10C only flew last year and is actually a few years behind J10B and not actually in parallel

It could be that the first J10B regiment is like 40 planes and that's why it's not gone operational

So I now think J10C is infact a second batch of J10B and not a export variant

That's until I find another reason to yet again change my mind

But now all the evidence and discussion is suggesting and making sense that infact J10C is a further development of J10B

Good discussion guys

 

[FORBIN]

Wow 40 for a Rgt !

Actually all fighters frontline rgts equiped with modern aircrafts get between 18/28 units only Rgts with old A-5/J-7 have 30+.

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[Deino]

Jane's is late and wrong again !! First of all we already have numbers up to 130, and all current serial J-10Bs are powered by the AL-31FN series III

 

[tphuang]

Jane's is late and wrong again !! First of all we already have numbers up to 130, and all current serial J-10Bs are powered by the AL-31FN series III

nice, quite a large first batch I must say. Might get to 36 to 40 aircraft like the recent J-10A batches.

 

[asif iqbal]

No wonder the delivery is taking ages it's the size of a small Air Force! 40 x J10B wow!!!

 

[gullible]

is that a repainted 1035 or new one?

 

[Deino]

is that a repainted 1035 or new one?

That is simply 1035 with the '1035' psed !