If WS-10A is not mature and not enough thrust, it will not be used on new prototype for initial flight test of J-15S, J-16 and J-20. WS-10 is doing very well and PLAAF trust it. There is no reason not to put it on J-10B as demonstrated by a prototype of J-10b running WS-10A.
Clearly, you know more than Pupu, oh Great lion.
Clearly, single engine aircraft is the same as double engine aircraft.
Clearly, China has so many extra AL-31F around that it can use at anytime.
Clearly, J-10B didn't have enough test flights with AL-31FN before flying with FWS-10A.
Clearly, Chinese flankers are like J-10s, they are not constrained in production if there is no Taihang for them.
This is even more absurd. I don't think we need a genius to figure out selling an engine is more profitable or selling a whole plane(j-11b) is more profitable? Worst of all you are selling the engine to an rival....
Has CAC stopped producing J-10? What does Liming have to gain by not selling engine to CAC? Does it look like this evil strategy by Shenyang Liming is reaping any reward so far? I've written about this. Each engine is at least $4 million and two engines is $8 million. You have all the added lifetime support and spares that you get on top of that. How much do you think each J-11B cost? $35 million? How much of that is produced by SAC? If you take out the engine cost and radar cost and sensor cost? What do you have left? $20 million or less? The after sale servicing you get back with engine is a lot more than just on the aircraft itself. You have to take it back every 500 flight hours for overhaul. After a couple of times, you have to get new engines. How much more profit do you think Shenyang Liming is giving up here?
That is just your assumption. J-11b uses Ws-10 engine is always PLAAF target and priority. You are now linking it to russia not going to supply AL-31F for PLAAF if they uses it on J-11b? How about the initial batch of J-11b and J-15 using AL-31F? How come Russia still continue to supply further more AL-31F engines to China? How can Russia ensure AL-31F goes to old plane only?
you obviously don't follow the Chinese forum on this issue. The initial production batch of J-11B was clearly using AL-31F, so PLAAF was fine with producing J-11B if FWS-10 engine was not available. If SAC had that many spare AL-31F lying around, why do you think J-11B production basically stopped for 2 years with those aircraft parked outside the company airfields. Don't you think PLAAF wanted those aircraft?
As I say early, SAC dirty move of trying to limit Chengdu J-10b cannot be expressed openly or say openly. ("We gonna limit J-10B, make PLAAF buy only J-11b!!"). You think SAC is some idiot? They need to act along and play accordingly to please PLAAF. Letting them test one prototype tested with J-10B will not killed them but letting serial production of operational J-10B will be a big problem.
oh great lion, you know more than all of us here. You know about SAC and CAC relationship better than everyone else. You know about Liming and 601 and 112's relationships better than anyone here. Teach us more.
As I say J-20 is a high priority program just like PL-12 and KJ-2000. Nobody or even SAC dare to screw up this project. WS-15 is for J-20. So what do you think? And I already mention before, engine is not the core lifeline for SAC, Making a plane is. Chengdu is stepping on SAC toe. Xi'an is not...
FWS-10 is the lifeline of Shenyang Liming. Where do you think Liming will be if has no more FWS-10 production contracts? Yet, SAERI designed WS-15 and WS-20 and they are going to be produced by Xi'an AE. There is a difference between the aircraft producing part of both base and the engine production part. But clearly, because you said so, Xi'an AE and XAC are the same thing. Shenyang Liming and 601 and 112 are the same thing.
