J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[Schumacher]

Again, why is more thrust necessary to power an AESA ???

Deino

Aircraft power sources include engines driven generators.
Stronger engines can supply more power to the power hungry AESA.

 

[Quickie]

I have the impression the energy require to move a large machine or to fly an aircraft is very much larger than the energy require to power electronic equipment. So, I'm not so sure an AESA radar would actually put so much demand on a jet engine of a medium sized fighter like the J-10A.

 

[lcloo]

Most of the engine power is used on producing thrust to move the aircraft, a small amount of power is consumed to turn electricity generator via a gear coupling. So only a few hundred (or thousands) Kilowatt of electricity will be produced for all the avionics and other electrically power equipment (landing gear, actuators etc ) on the aircraft.

Radar is one of many such equipment and it has to share the total electricity output of the generator with other equipment. The question will be - can the generator provide enough power to all equipment on board, and how much extra power AESA radar need compare with original radar on J-10A.

 

[Quickie]

Most of the engine power is used on producing thrust to move the aircraft, a small amount of power is consumed to turn electricity generator via a gear coupling. So only a few hundred (or thousands) Kilowatt of electricity will be produced for all the avionics and other electrically power equipment (landing gear, actuators etc ) on the aircraft.

Radar is one of many such equipment and it has to share the total electricity output of the generator with other equipment. The question will be - can the generator provide enough power to all equipment on board, and how much extra power AESA radar need compare with original radar on J-10A.

how much extra power AESA radar need compare with original radar on J-10A.

Also, what percentage of the total power is consumed by the J-10A original radar.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Again, why is more thrust necessary to power an AESA ???

Deino

If AL equipped J-10Bs wish to employ AESA radars China must make a breakthrough in onboard generator technology. Right now it doesn't seem too feasible.

 

[CottageLV]

Is it shocking? I don't think so. We all heard since Musharraf era that Pakistan would be the first export customer. We even saw him in the cockpit. We heard more then a few times from the ACM that we will get it. So some nice folks here still deny it? China has evolved unimaginable. J10B and J20 are just the open (pretty sure they are indeed open) programs. We have probably their J30 programs which we at the moment do not see. So exporting the good old J10 is not the big risk but a big improvement for PAF. It fits perfectly in the ZDk03-JF17 combo. So handling over the model to an important PAF person might not be a big deal. I myself have the J10 book that was only given to few people. I have the gold plated J10 symbols received many years ago from the Chinese. Does that implicate anything? Nopes. So indeed getting a model is nice. But we know that PAF will get J10. Maybe not now, then surely in the near future. After all, Those big numbers of Mirages are going to be replaced by J10. Those F7's are being replaced by JF17. Just check the plane variables and you will see the link.

Let us discuss the real important factors. Which engine? Which version? Which typical PAF requirements? Which weapons? When? (I think they will switch over to the J10B any time soon). And which radar....

Were you a PAF pilot?

 

[AssassinsMace]

Here's something in regard to the debate whether the J-10B radar wasn't AESA by the IFF dipole antenna. This is Israeli AESA.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Here's something in regard to the debate whether the J-10B radar wasn't AESA by the IFF dipole antenna. This is Israeli AESA.

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Interesting. But thats an S-band Array, where as the J-10B would have to be X-Band

 

[Preux]

The use of "intercourse" made me laugh.

Where did sell to hong kong university from from? that's funny.

Filthy-minded bastard

Anyway, it's from this photo , of HKU being gifted with a model of the 056. Just pokin' some gentle fun - a gift of a model means a gift of a model, nothing more.

 

[Broccoli]

Has there been any new J-10B sightings? It seems to have gone under radar recently.