J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[challenge]

around 2002, Phozotron confirmed that they export two "Mosquit" PESA to China. the radar is design to fit inside MIg-21MF cramp space.it is likely the radar may copy of Mosuit radar.
according to strategypage, China may have planning to use the technology to develop AESA radar.
in 2004, there is aggreement between China and Russia to facilitated technological exchange in the development AESA radar.

 

[tphuang]

will you stop that? These are not good sources.

In a recent kanwa article, Russian radar designer mentioned that China was trying to sell T/R modules to Russia at a price lower than how much Russia was capable of producing them. That should show people that China is ahead of Russia in this area. It shouldn't be too much of a surprise given how much further advanced the Chinese electronics industry is. Now, whether this has transferred to production AESA radar or not, we can't be certain. But, I would definitely lean that way.

 

[challenge]

real problem was solfware and system integration, both sweden and france encounter difficulty trying to develop solfware for the radar
according to USAF,no european AESA radar (included the russian)could match the US radar.

 

[Engineer]

unfortunately that caption does not specify if its PESA or AESA

but it shows F-35's AN/APG-81 for comparison, hmm..

The visible portion of the display only mentions AESA but not PESA. That would suggest the radar in the picture is an AESA even if it is not explicitly mentioned in the caption.

 

[Kurt]

real problem was solfware and system integration, both sweden and france encounter difficulty trying to develop solfware for the radar
according to USAF,no european AESA radar (included the russian)could match the US radar.

Don't military hard- and software developer always tell you that they are far ahead of everybody else worldwide? I just heard that story too often.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

real problem was solfware and system integration, both sweden and france encounter difficulty trying to develop solfware for the radar
according to USAF,no european AESA radar (included the russian)could match the US radar.

RQ your mind is stuck in 1980 You keep saying this BS about software without any proof other than your own prejudice . Are you implying that China is weak in software. How come they can built the 2nd fastest computer in the world?. China successfully put into serial production 3 type of AESA radar You must be in denial

 

[latenlazy]

RQ your mind is stuck in 1980 You keep saying this BS about software without any proof other than your own prejudice . Are you implying that China is weak in software. How come they can built the 2nd fastest computer in the world?. China successfully put into serial production 3 type of AESA radar You must be in denial

Well...technically the supercomputer is hardware, but Chinese software has probably advanced several paces in the last decade. Software is not like hardware, much easier to leapfrog and advance in.

 

[Centrist]

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[challenge]

RQ your mind is stuck in 1980 You keep saying this BS about software without any proof other than your own prejudice . Are you implying that China is weak in software. How come they can built the 2nd fastest computer in the world?. China successfully put into serial production 3 type of AESA radar You must be in denial

my answer is yes, China did openly admitted there weakness in system integration.
developing solfware for supercomputer and avionic system are different.

 

[MiG-29]

will you stop that? These are not good sources.

In a recent kanwa article, Russian radar designer mentioned that China was trying to sell T/R modules to Russia at a price lower than how much Russia was capable of producing them. That should show people that China is ahead of Russia in this area. It shouldn't be too much of a surprise given how much further advanced the Chinese electronics industry is. Now, whether this has transferred to production AESA radar or not, we can't be certain. But, I would definitely lean that way.

hard to tell, Russian workers are usually pay higher salaries than China, while i do not know the exact ability of both nations, i know very well that Russia is usually underestimated, today Russia has a former USSR company developing microprocessors named elbrus and already has aesa technology

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Russian microprocessor technology is widely used by the main microprocessor companies since Elbrus International sells them technology and and in fact Elbrus international is mentioned in the top 500 list