J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)
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Semi-Lobster
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This is the first time the Chengdu J-10 has been evaluated against foreign aircraft so aggressively and it would be interesting to see how it fares. Also It should be interesting to see if the Chinese bid uses other tactics such as a trade deal for resources or a low-interest loan to Serbia in exchange for the J-10 tender. Possibly 'extra' incentive such as a donation in the millions like what was done with Bolivia ( ) The J-10 though could be a problem for weapon's systems though, Serbia of course has an Air Force based around Russian ordinance and the J-10 has only ever been seen using Chinese ordinance.
dexy-sexy
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In recent months China has donated some $500.000 worth of equipment to Serbian Army, mostly computers and other stuff. China and Serbia already have a great deal for building a bridge across a river Danube in Belgrade (capitol of Serbia), and J-10 deal could be good extension in already good economic cooperation that is getting better every day.
Personally, I think that weapon systems thad could be offered by China are good enough to satisfy needs of SAF, especially if SD10 BVR missiles are included in a deal, and that is capability that SAF does not have right now, although its MiG-29 could carry R-27R missiles, but those have low range and are with SAR guidance.
I can't say what price of Gripen offered to Serbia could be, because it has not been announced in media yet, but recently SAAB has offered 24 aircraft to Romania for EUR 1 billion, including training, support, logistics and 100 percent offset, but weapons not included in this offer.
Personally, I think that weapon systems thad could be offered by China are good enough to satisfy needs of SAF, especially if SD10 BVR missiles are included in a deal, and that is capability that SAF does not have right now, although its MiG-29 could carry R-27R missiles, but those have low range and are with SAR guidance.
I can't say what price of Gripen offered to Serbia could be, because it has not been announced in media yet, but recently SAAB has offered 24 aircraft to Romania for EUR 1 billion, including training, support, logistics and 100 percent offset, but weapons not included in this offer.
Do not forget friend... Gripen engine is American. If Uncle Sam don't like Serbia, getting the plane without engine is as good as zero.
J-10 uses Russian engine. Russia is close with Serbia. I think which choice is safer. I do not need to explain further.
Semi-Lobster
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I'm a little surprised to be honest that Serbia is considering the F/A-18 and F-16, buying American military equipment, is always rife with 'strings attached' and for a country like Serbia, who is not even a NATO or EU member, the chance of an American withdrawal (even temporarily) of support for the aircraft that may be a problem
Schumacher
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I doubt Russia will allow any Russian engines on J10 to PAF let alone Serbia. Either China get WS10 ready for J10 or there won't be any foreign sales.
This is kind of interesting. Huitong just posted a picture of #51 from the 9th division, 25th regiment. We've known since late last year that they have started to establish a new regiment there, but this is the first photo that we have seen.
As for the production rate of J-10, I think the assembly rate can be bumped up a lot during emergency time. But during the normal time production, the most we've seen is probably 4 to 6 per months.
As for the production rate of J-10, I think the assembly rate can be bumped up a lot during emergency time. But during the normal time production, the most we've seen is probably 4 to 6 per months.
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Pointblank
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Serbia is very interested in becoming a EU nation; they have applied to join the EU in 2009.
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