J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[vesicles]

Its interesting that most of the August 1st J10s seem to be twin seaters, which would suggest that these are new, and possibly custom, built airframes. When I first heard reports that the Aug 1st were getting J10s, I assumed they would be getting some early production birds, possibly the CFTE birds, with all new buids going to front line units.

It would suggest that the PLAAF has decided to slow the pace of J10 induction if they managed to squeeze capacity for their display team to get new build J10s instead of focusing on building up new regiments as fast as possible.

I wonder if this is because of the advanced stage the J10B has reached and the PLAAF is just waiting for testing to be completed to go with that over getting more J10As.

or it could be that their production line is so strong that they have no problem making a few extra ones for the display team.

or the govn't decides that displaying the new capabilities of the PLAAF is also very crucial to the national defense and is worth diverting and dedicating a few resources. Changing foreign nations' perception of a background PLAAF and giving Chinese people more confidence of their own military and their govn't may be very important to the leadership. We all know that THE priority of the Chinese govn't is domestic stability. Showing off the powerful and advanced military, i.e J-10, may be a good way of doing it, which is the reason for the elaborate National Day parade...

 

[tphuang]

If you know Chinese, you can get a lot of real information from this video.

J-10 deputy designer.

Chinese air force paying 200 million yuan a piece;
Chinese air force would not allow CAC to sell J-10 to anyone, include Pakistan;
J-10 equals F-16 c/d's;
J-10 radar search distance 150 km;
China is working on J-13, J-14 and developing very fast;
J-10 radar RCS is around 1-1.5 square meters;
and many other information.

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a man, I just posted the same thing 3 posts above. Please look for these things next time before you repeats posts.

 

[A.Man]

a man, I just posted the same thing 3 posts above. Please look for these things next time before you repeats posts.

Sorry. When I was there, your post was not on the same page.

 

[challenge]

If you know Chinese, you can get a lot of real information from this video.

J-10 deputy designer.

Chinese air force paying 200 million yuan a piece;
Chinese air force would not allow CAC to sell J-10 to anyone, include Pakistan;
J-10 equals F-16 c/d's;
J-10 radar search distance 150 km;
China is working on J-13, J-14 and developing very fast;
J-10 radar RCS is around 1-1.5 square meters;
and many other information.

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150km range likely refering to a 10 m target.most use 1 meter RCS as a standard measurement.
(max. range for APG-77 AESA is 400km)

 

[Hyperwarp]

150km range likely refering to a 10 m target.most use 1 meter RCS as a standard measurement.
(max. range for APG-77 AESA is 400km)

10m^2 target? 1st time I've heard that...

US usually goes by 1m^2 target @ XXX nm (nautical miles). For example, AN/APG-77 is believed to be at least : 1m^2 @ 125 nm in LPI mode (Though the actual values are still classified).

Russians used to go by 5m^2 target @ XXX km, but it recent times that has changed to 3m^2. Zhuk-AE initial version 3m^2 @ 130km / improved version 3m^2 @ 250km, Irbis-E 3m^2 @ 375km - 400km

When it comes to PRC, well according to the the KLJ-7 brochure -

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Look-up : 5m^2 @ >= 105km

So I would think the 150km value is for a 5m^2 target.... Which would be better than the

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PESA RADARs as well as the

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[challenge]

去年11月4日，蔡得胜在“立院”答询首度公开证实“中国大陆已开始建造航空母舰”；另据外电报道，俄罗斯售中40架苏恺33舰载战机的计划几乎告吹；另有消息指出，解放军成功地在瓦良格号航母上，测试舰载型歼-10战机。

 

[A.Man]

Crashed J-10 Photos

Sorry, I cannot delete my old photos anymore.

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[sydneylaide]

Crashed J-10 Photos

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It was not a J10, but a mockup made of foam and plastic skin, destroyed by strong wind.

J10 has not crashed once yet, only had an engine malfunction(first of this type serviced in Chinese airforce) last year, and reported widely.

 

[noone536]

but how a mock can fly?

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

if the model is light enough and the winds can reach the proper Air speed then lift takes over and it will take off so the story is possible.