Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Biscuits said:

Why are they on the vehicle top lol

Even if Israel is now more on the back foot than ever before, I don't think the war is over quite yet.

Especially China needs to analyse what went wrong for Israel, this outcome is truly surprising. When Israel started fumbling at the start of the war, I was sure the war would go like Chechnya due to the vast difference in not just arms but also numbers. But 1.5 years later, Israel has still not captured more than a few dozen square km. The war proved that a tiny nation could best a military giant - the question is how, why and what lessons does it hold?

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Overbom said:

Imagine thinking that anything else than violent resistance against Israel will take you far lmao

If you think Palestine is going to get it's land back from Netanyahu by being good boys, he will just bomb you while American libs



Yeah ok
Meanwhile in reality, northern Gaza is lost, Rafah crossing is now occupied by Israel, Golan Heights controlled by Israel (which further limits Syrian options to flowing arms to Lebanon) and Syria is now lost to US/Israel puppets.

Israel is over now!
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coolgod said:

UAE is sending spies to Lebanon disguised as Red Crescent aid workers to locate Hezbollah rocket launching sites. Most of the non-Israeli aligned middle east is disunited and on fire, yes Isreal's PR took a hit, but they'll continue normalizing relations with neighbours like the Saudis.

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JJD1803 said:

Trumps words tonight is nothing but short of troubling. He is basically demanding Hamas to release all the hostages by 12pm on this coming Saturday. But that’s the worse of it. He is openly saying Palestinians do not have the right to return in Gaza and is demanding Egypt and Jordan to take the Palestinians. Jordan and Egypt have both stood firm and said they will not do such a thing. Both regimes know if they accept this deal they will enrage the populace leading to them being overthrown. Now Trump is threatening to cut all aid to Egypt and Jordan unless they take the Palestinians from Gaza. Basically undoing the Camp David accords which was basically the US bribing Jordan and Egypt to not attack Israel. Tensions have risen to the point Jordan has sent troops to the border with Israel. Israel has been complaining about increased Egyptian militarization of the Sinai. If Trump is stupid enough to basically blow up the Camp David accords this is going to ignite the entire West Asia. Saudi Arabia will not be pleased because if Jordan collapse they are next as they border Jordan.

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Arnies said:

This is absolutely bullshxt..

UAE has no dog in the fight in Lebanon and you would never guess who it was but it was Iran. Iran didn´t want Hez-Israel war hence they gave away Nasrallah location he got killed and his second didn´t want to stop the war either and then he got killed also and all of that information was provided by Iran to Israel and another thing I forgot to mention. Ismail Hanyeh was killed in Tehran by the Iranian intelligence but it was said it was Mossad.

Iran has an under the table alliance with Israel which is even hidden from the US. The Iranians forced ceasefire on Hez after the selection of third Hezbollah leader exiting the war without forcing the Israelis to submission together with Hamas leaving Hamas alone in the fight. There is alot of deception going on and the lose of Syria hit Israel harder then it did Iran

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JJD1803 said:

Trumps words tonight is nothing but short of troubling. He is basically demanding Hamas to release all the hostages by 12pm on this coming Saturday. But that’s the worse of it. He is openly saying Palestinians do not have the right to return in Gaza and is demanding Egypt and Jordan to take the Palestinians. Jordan and Egypt have both stood firm and said they will not do such a thing. Both regimes know if they accept this deal they will enrage the populace leading to them being overthrown. Now Trump is threatening to cut all aid to Egypt and Jordan unless they take the Palestinians from Gaza. Basically undoing the Camp David accords which was basically the US bribing Jordan and Egypt to not attack Israel. Tensions have risen to the point Jordan has sent troops to the border with Israel. Israel has been complaining about increased Egyptian militarization of the Sinai. If Trump is stupid enough to basically blow up the Camp David accords this is going to ignite the entire West Asia. Saudi Arabia will not be pleased because if Jordan collapse they are next as they border Jordan.

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The US intelligence community recently presented assessments that Israel is considering strikes on Iran’s nuclear program, and that the attacks could come this year, according to Wednesday reports.

The Washington Post report that a preemptive attack on Iran’s nuclear program could come by midyear. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report. The White House declined to comment. The Post says the Israeli government, CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency and Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment.

The most comprehensive of the intelligence reports came in early January and was produced by the intelligence directorate of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Post said. It assessed that Israel was likely to attempt an attack on Iran’s Fordo and Natanz nuclear facilities.

Officials in Israel and the US refused to comment.

Meanwhile, The Wall Street Journal also reported on the files, citing two sources familiar with the developments. One assessment, including the 2025 timeframe, was presented during the last days of the Biden administration, it said.

A second intelligence report provided in the first days of the Trump administration also said that Israel was mulling strikes on Iran, one of the sources said.

The first analysis said Israel would likely press the Trump administration to support the strikes, seeing the incoming Republican as more amenable to military action, two sources with knowledge of the assessment said.

According to the report, during the transition from Biden to Trump, some members of the latter’s staff considered having US forces join an Israeli attack.

The Prime Minister’s Office and the Israel Defense Forces declined to comment on the report, as did the Directorate of National Intelligence and the National Security Council in the US.

On Thursday, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said Tehran’s enemies may be able to strike the country’s nuclear centers but cannot deprive it of its ability to build new ones.

Iran, which is sworn to Israel’s destruction, insists its nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. However, the UN nuclear watchdog IAEA has said that Iran is currently enriching uranium to levels that have no civilian use, and the country has obstructed international inspectors seeking to visit its facilities.

In addition, The New York Times reported earlier this month that American intelligence indicates a covert team of Iranian scientists was exploring ways to quickly develop a nuclear weapon if the country’s leadership decided to pursue one.

Some Israeli officials have indicated a desire to hit Iran, seeing a ripe opportunity given the damage Israel has inflicted on Iran and its proxies since the start of the Gaza war in 2023.

War erupted on October 7, 2023, when the Palestinian terror group Hamas led a devastating invasion of southern Israel that killed 1,200 people, mostly civilians. The next day, Iran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon began attacking across Israel’s northern border. As Israel battled Hamas in Gaza and responded to Hezbollah’s rocket fire, Iran-backed Houthis rebels also began firing drones and ballistic missiles at Israel.

In September Israel launched a major campaign against Hezbollah, decimating the terror group’s leadership and depleted its fighting abilities. A ceasefire was reached at the end of November. Hezbollah was long seen as a deterrent to an Israeli strike on Iran, due to the threat of its massive missile arsenal, but the war left it with greatly diminished capabilities.

Meanwhile, Israel bombed the Houthi rebels in Yemen — demonstrating its ability to strike even further than Iran — and in Syria, the Iran-aligned Assad regime was ousted by rebels who have since courted the West.

In spillover from the fighting, Iran twice fired massive missile and drone barrages at Israel which were largely thwarted by air defenses, in cooperation with the US and its regional allies.

Israel responded with two rounds of strikes on Iran, the second of which, in October, destroyed much of the Islamic Republic’s air defense systems as well as some key military facilities while demonstrating Israel’s ability to operate uninhibited over Iranian airspace.

At the time, then-US president Joe Biden reportedly urged Israel against hitting nuclear sites.

By contrast, Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer reportedly left a November meeting with then-president-elect Donald Trump believing he would either support an Israeli military strike against Iranian nuclear facilities or direct a US strike on those sites himself.

In November last year, Defense Minister Israel Katz said, “Iran today is more exposed than ever to damage to its nuclear facilities.

“There is a chance of achieving the most important goal, to thwart and remove the threat of annihilation from hanging over the State of Israel,” he said.

Trump has since said he wants to negotiate a solution but has also reimposed his maximum pressure strategy of strict sanctions on Iran, which in return has said it wants to reach a diplomatic solution.

On Monday, Trump expressed his confidence that a deal can be reached with Iran to curb its nuclear program and prevent it from producing a bomb.

“I think we’re gonna make a deal in Iran,” he told Fox News. “I think they’re scared. I think Iran would love to make a deal and I would love to make a deal with them without bombing them.

“Everyone thinks Israel, with our help or our approval, will go in and bomb the hell out of ’em. I would prefer that not happen,” he told the cable network.

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