Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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sheogorath said:
The "sunni resistance" already sucking up to Israel and thanking them for distracting Hezbollah. Yet some people want to convince us they share positions with the palestinians lol


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I kinda get now why the middle east has lost most wars against Israel. All of them can't take one small country.

Its not that Israel is some almighty superpower although they have smart people and huge backing from the west. But basically its an adult in a playground full of kids.
 
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The sad reality is that Turkey has leverage over Russia and Iran. Russia can’t risk angering Ankara too much as they could open the Dardanelles to western ships. Also Turkey has become a magnet for Central Asian Turkmen jihadist militants. Which means at any time they can send these battle hardened fighters back to the central Asian countries creating an ISIS caliphate crisis on Russia and China’s backyard. If I’m Russia I would go hard to intervene with Iran and Iraq to make sure those militants never think once they are done with Syria to go back to Central Asia.

Turkey has leverage over Iran in regards to Azerbaijan. Can Iran crush Azerbaijan? They can but it will require lots of resources and likely Turkish intervention.
Turkey in the short term think they are brilliant playing this double game with the west and east however it’s going to backfire. The only logical reason why they are going this hard against Syria is to fill the vacuum once the US leaves. But like many of you have said it’s not going to fix Turkey’s economic problems. Matter of fact a failed Syrian warlord state is going to sap resources. Most nations do not want to neighbor a failed state. But I don’t know what Russia or Iran could do now.
 
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JJD1803 said:
The sad reality is that Turkey has leverage over Russia and Iran. Russia can’t risk angering Ankara too much as they could open the Dardanelles to western ships. Also Turkey has become a magnet for Central Asian Turkmen jihadist militants. Which means at any time they can send these battle hardened fighters back to the central Asian countries creating an ISIS caliphate crisis on Russia and China’s backyard. If I’m Russia I would go hard to intervene with Iran and Iraq to make sure those militants never think once they are done with Syria to go back to Central Asia.

Turkey has leverage over Iran in regards to Azerbaijan. Can Iran crush Azerbaijan? They can but it will require lots of resources and likely Turkish intervention.
Turkey in the short term think they are brilliant playing this double game with the west and east however it’s going to backfire. The only logical reason why they are going this hard against Syria is to fill the vacuum once the US leaves. But like many of you have said it’s not going to fix Turkey’s economic problems. Matter of fact a failed Syrian warlord state is going to sap resources. Most nations do not want to neighbor a failed state. But I don’t know what Russia or Iran could do now.
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Wanna relive the good old days when they had the ottoman empire.

Seeing the performance in the middle east, I sorta get how they got so big. Not to take anything away from Ottoman prowess since I know they were really strong in their prime.
 
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zhangjim said:
Israel has gained an unexpected savior，the God of Israel is none other than Erdogan!
Israel's left hook and Turkey's right hook smashed Iran's expansion achievements.

Gentlemen, we can see a more brutal and bloody future. I believe that Palestinian resistance and their presence will completely disappear next year, and Europe will only issue some hollow condemnations. Perhaps Trump will celebrate the 'complete victory' of the Jewish.
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The ironic thing about this Arab nations like Saudi Arabia,Egypt,Jordan support Syria this time. They aren’t thrilled about Turkish expansionism. Also they see Turkey as a threat of leading the Muslim Brotherhood ideology in the region. There is to be three factions in the region. You have the Iranian led axis of resistance, then there is the Muslim Brotherhood axis led by Turkish military might and Qatari oil/gas money and you have the Arab anti Muslim brotherhood faction with the Egypt and the Arab monarchies. Israel is the biggest benefactor from the chaos but it’s short term. Long term Israel still faces strategic peril. I do think with their arrogance they’ll make a stupid mistake in the future like destroying Al Aqsa mosque. We have literal Israeli govt officials say this is the goal. Israel is going for broke and with Trump back in office they are going to take as much as they can. They’ll annex the West Bank and with the situation in Syria make a push towards Lebanon. We are in for bloody and chaotic times
 
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Randomuser said:
I kinda get now why the middle east has lost most wars against Israel. All of them can't take one small country.

Its not that Israel is some almighty superpower although they have smart people and huge backing from the west. But basically its an adult in a playground full of kids.
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You should have been here some time ago when people thought Israel would collapse or die or whatever lol

These people never learn. Even if Israel makes a strategic mistake, it's surrounded by so many idiotic, corrupt and incompetent countries that it will still come at top. Plus, it's backed by the number 1 superpower in the world, so lots and lots of margin of error

Just wait for Netanyahu's puppy to come in power in the US in January and that's when the real fun will begin. As I said, Palestinians are a goner, and Iran and it's minions (sans Houthis, the only ones who are capable) should buy some life insurance
 
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Yeah they should have finished the job.

But it's still quite shocking to see how fast the collapse is. Even if the guys came back, you figure the SAA could hang on for a bit. When you follow Ukraine and then you see this stuff, the difference in ability is like heaven and hell here.
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Syria was on a lifeline from Iran as is during the civil war, I doubt they actually had it in them to finish it off, least of all there will be a high possibility they will come into conflict with Turkish regulars, which are a magnitude more competent and well equipped than the militia SAA already had so much trouble fighting.
 
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I'm very surprised Iran is not sending in IRGC to save Assad. It seems they've given up on him.

But if so, they still need to wrestle this country from the Sunni rebels or risk losing another Shiite enclave. These rebels will be absolutely planning on committing genocide if they take over the country.
 
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"All of them can't take one small country"

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We have twice seen members of Congress in Washington standing applauding 50 times and all fearing to be the first to stop, surpassing the most delirious comedies

We have seen European puppets justify a colossal massacre of men, women and children, a massacre carried out by an ideology with a strong genocidal impulse (read the book of Deuteronomy)

When Christians said they are "the true Israel", they were not referring to a country. "Israel" is not a country, it is an identity and a mental software currently in the heads, whether of christian origin or of rabbinic origin, of the leaders of the most colossal military and financial empire that has ever seen the face of this planet, beautiful asteroid and painful world.
 
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