Say what you will of Erdogan he played this brilliantly. He outsmarted Russia and Iran. He used the Astana accords to let the militants rearm, reequip and reconstitute its forces. Russia and Iran were again fooled by diplomatic agreements following them with good faith like Minks and JCPOA. Turkey’s reason to do this is the fact they have about 5-6 million Sunni Arab refugees that they canning support forever. Turkey’s economy is dealing with runaway inflation. Plus they want a buffer zone in the note to put those refugees that will also upset the demographic balance of the north. The areas the SDF are at best half Sunni Arab and half Kurdish areas other areas are overwhelmingly Sunni arab. Sending those 5 million would provide Turkey with the perfect proxies to fight and ultimately crush the Kurdish YPG. Turkey wanted a reconciliation between the Syrian government and opposition so they could destroy the YPG. When that didn’t happen he unleashed the jihadist horde on Syria. Plus with Trump coming to office and promising to withdraw from Syria, Turkey wants to fill that power vacuum. I don’t agree with it but Turkey outplayed Tehran and Moscow. At this rate Homs is going to fall. Russia and Iran are in a bind. Russia is more focused with Ukraine and NATO. Iran is focused on economic development. Will they send more resources and likely start a regional war? I doubt it.
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Non of this will help Turkey's economy. The YPG are backed by the US, and the the US will not just stand by as Erdogan "crushes" them. If Erdogan really plans to go to war with the YPG on the scale you are describing, then he is planning on going to war with the US, which will further crush Turkey's economy. Turkey never wanted to make peace with Syria. They are occupying a large part of Syria. If Erdogan wanted to get rid of the refugees and share the burden of fighting the YPG with the Syrians, he would have left Syria to Assad and cooperated with Syria, Russia and Iran in good faith. Instead, he has subjected the Syrian economy to more suffering, made the US job cheaper and easier, made an enemy out of Russia and Iran, and is in the process of establishing a terrorist state right on his border, which we know no one can control other than the US, who have mastered the art of terrorism and will most likely use them against everyone in the region, including Turkey, especially if they plan on fighting the YPG. Most importantly, Erdogan is turning the entire neighbouring region into rubble, which will ensure the refugees stay in Turkey for the long run. After all, immigrants leave their homelands in search of better lives, not worse.
What Erdogan is doing is helping the US like the good puppet that he is, and he is doing it at the cost of his own country, an act all NATO states seem to be engaged in at the moment, and since Turkey has been a US puppet since 52, I expect nothing less from them.
I do not think we should be do quick to judge, IMO this is a shirt term victory, long term nothing really seems to have changed for Turkey's geo position.
The bloodthirsty Americans are at it again.
US Senator Tom Cotton has introduced a Senate bill that seeks to eliminate the federal use of the term “West Bank” and instead implement the use of “Judea and Samaria”, claiming the terminology aligns with Israel’s historical and biblical claims to the territory
US Senator Tom Cotton has introduced a Senate bill that seeks to eliminate the federal use of the term “West Bank” and instead implement the use of “Judea and Samaria”, claiming the terminology aligns with Israel’s historical and biblical claims to the territory
who knew that putting fire at your neighbour's house and causing its residents to flow to your place and become a huge drag on your resources would be a good idea? Only Erdogan! very wise, very smart lol
Whereas all strategies pay attention keeping your domestic situation stable and growing, your neighborhood stable, and instead weakening them by soft methods, Erdogan has innovated once again!
Russia and Iran have spent way too long handholding Syria. They now have much bigger issues to deal with that affect them personally. If the Syrian government won't do enough to help itself, it's on them. It sucks but its seems these days everyone has their own difficult problems to deal with and charity isn't coming cheap now.
Putin keeps getting outsmarted diplomatically. First Minsk and now Astana.
Russia and Iran had the chance to finish off Idlib and the al-Qaida terrorists in 2019. Instead they allowed the conflict to be frozen and thereby giving Turkey the opportunity to re-arm the terrorists.
Assad made mistakes, but folks are going above and beyond to try to save Russia's reputation here. This is a big L for Putin. He could have removed the jihadist threat and instead he effectively saved them by calling it a day. Everything that is going on stems from Putin's failure to finish the job when he had the chance.
Yeah they should have finished the job.
But it's still quite shocking to see how fast the collapse is. Even if the guys came back, you figure the SAA could hang on for a bit. When you follow Ukraine and then you see this stuff, the difference in ability is like heaven and hell here.
Israel has gained an unexpected savior，the God of Israel is none other than Erdogan!
Israel's left hook and Turkey's right hook smashed Iran's expansion achievements.
Gentlemen, we can see a more brutal and bloody future. I believe that Palestinian resistance and their presence will completely disappear next year, and Europe will only issue some hollow condemnations. Perhaps Trump will celebrate the 'complete victory' of the Jewish.
The "sunni resistance" already sucking up to Israel and thanking them for distracting Hezbollah. Yet some people want to convince us they share positions with the palestinians lol