Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

sequ said:

Reading isn't your strongest skill I see:

"An interview with Hamas official Talal Nasser, aired on Dec 2, regarding recent developments in Syria."

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That's called framing - giving a context to the shown material. Only problem is it's footage where he is clearly around 10 years younger than in 2022 - meaning the framing is false.

That's deductive reasoning - piecing together different pieces of information to see how they fit.
Do you have any problem with this deduction?

Proton said:

When I search Talal Nasser+hamas for older results I find one video from 2022:

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It appears to be the same guy, just 10 years older - meaning you're spreading pure desinformation passing off a very old video as a current one.

Hamas was previously fully aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood; the main faction among the Syrian opposition - at least back then.
Problem is Ikhwan was largely crushed when the US chose to support the ouster of Morsi in Egypt, and Hamas had to turn towards its other backers for support.

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Its also interesting how there are barely no news or comments from this guy from Oct. 7th on wards. You'd think being a Hamas member, he'd have a lot to say about whats happening in Gaza yet is largely absent but even Memri, being a israeli psyop, has nothing recent on the guy.

It's almost like he might actually be a Turkish plant.

sequ said:

Meanwhile the real resistance:

Hamas official Talal Nasser: Salute to the Syrian revolution! God willing, they will advance to Damascus. It's time for these tyrants, murderers go.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863831762381529392

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Hamas is also a zionist puppet. lol Hamas supported the Syrian revolution and rebels( and they still do) since the uprisings against the Assad dynasty started in 2012. They even fell out with Iran and Syria for a long time due to that. They only reestablished ties back with the syrian regime only recently 2 years ago in 2022( i.e 10years after their support to the rebels) because they had no other choice than to restablished ties with the syrian regime to get continued Iranian support and after even the Arab states restablished ties with Assad when the rebellion fied down and a seizefire deal was reached. Its interesting to see if they will cut ties with Syria again if they think the Assad regime will fall.. Hamas obviously prefers her muslim brotherhood islamists militants brothers than the Alawite sect Baathist regime of Assad.

Michael90 said:

Hamas is also a zionist puppet. lol Hamas supported the Syrian revolution and rebels( and they still do) since the uprisings against the Assad dynasty started in 2012. They even fell out with Iran and Syria for a long time due to that. They only reestablished ties back with the syrian regime only recently 2 years ago in 2022( i.e 10years after their support to the rebels) because they had no other choice than to restablished ties with the syrian regime to get continued Iranian support and after even the Arab states restablished ties with Assad when the rebellion fied down and a seizefire deal was reached. Its interesting to see if they will cut ties with Syria again if they think the Assad regime will fall.. Hamas obviously prefers her muslim brotherhood islamists militants brothers than the Alawite sect Baathist regime of Assad.

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Its funny how are we taking a Erdogan meatrider as the final authority on Hamas considering the guy couldn't even eulogize Sinwar, lol.

This guy is so absent he doesn't even figure in any comprehensive list of Hamas leadership. Let me know when its Abu Obeida or Khalik al-Hayyna doing the anouncement, not an Erdogan simp who plays the "Hamas spokesperson" side hustle when convenient.

sheogorath said:

Its also interesting how there are barely no news or comments from this guy from Oct. 7th on wards. You'd think being a Hamas member, he'd have a lot to say about whats happening in Gaza yet is largely absent but even Memri, being a israeli psyop, has nothing recent on the guy.

It's almost like he might actually be a Turkish plant.View attachment 140357

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Oh, I can't find that article, but you might have dissproven me, I got thrown off too hard by hair dying - you're not supposed to start dying once you've already done a public transition to gray....

Sorry.
But yeah, it seems like a proper Turkish psyops rather than som online fakery.

Trying to pass reality as a delusion, meanwhile the 'delusion' becoming a trend on X:

sheogorath said:

Its also interesting how there are barely no news or comments from this guy from Oct. 7th on wards. You'd think being a Hamas member, he'd have a lot to say about whats happening in Gaza yet is largely absent but even Memri, being a israeli psyop, has nothing recent on the guy.

It's almost like he might actually be a Turkish plant.View attachment 140357

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Just reading the headline is more than enough to know that this guy is a Turkish plant, please don't take him seriously.

sheogorath said:

Its funny how are we taking a Erdogan meatrider as the final authority on Hamas considering the guy couldn't even eulogize Sinwar, lol.

This guy is so absent he doesn't even figure in any comprehensive list of Hamas leadership. Let me know when its Abu Obeida or Khalik al-Hayyna doing the anouncement, not an Erdogan simp who plays the "Hamas spokesperson" side hustle when convenient.

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No its not just about this recent remarks this official made.
Its well known that Hamas supported the syrian revolution from the very beginning. Everybody knows that i dont understand why its hard for some of you guys to accept. lol
Hamas has its own genuine and rational reason for supporting the syrian revolution against Assad. I actually understand their reason and it makes sense looking at it from their perspective.
Hamas had no choice than to restablished ties with the syrian Assad dynasty again recently after both sides severed ties for over a decade due to being on different sides on the syrian conflict. In short if Hamas had any other major backer they wouldn't have changed their stance and would have kept their open official support for the rebels. Syria even expelled Hamas officials from its territory due to this issue.


Both sides are partners today as a matter of convenience and Hamas having no other choice to be honest. There is zero trust or love between them. I believe its a matter of time for Hamas to officially back the rebels again if things change on the ground.

FairAndUnbiased said:

What more sanctions can be brought on China?

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Look at what happened to Russia. The US Government can force Canada to arrest important Chinese citizens. They could force Australia to seize Chinese corporate property like mining interests.

argo said:

Look at what happened to Russia. The US Government can force Canada to arrest important Chinese citizens. They could force Australia to seize Chinese corporate property like mining interests.

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US wouldnt afford it, hence why they never tried it.

They can force Canada to arrest 1 or 2 Chinese businessmen maybe, before the rest flees. China will then in return use its stronger intel capability to round up twice as many western intel chiefs or other important staff. Maybe tip Russia off for another Poltava strike if the politburo wakes up feeling vindictive.

Seize Chinese corporate property and China seizes American corporate property.