Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

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coolgod said:
Turkish premature wet dreams.
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The real wet dream is that some fundamentalists that behead people for being a slightly different religion will listen to secular Erdogan and to Jews. This is a story that repeated time and time again, ending with pro-western forces being thrown out. Yemen, Afghanistan, Hamas etc.

If the will of the Syrian people is to become another Afghanistan, the jihadis might very well win.

Why then not give them a crack at running things?

Because why should someone fight for Assad? The only reason is that as the legitimate Syrian government, he was able to secure powerful foreign ties. Assad does not improve the economy, does not build up the military, nor has a plan to counter Israeli aggression in the region. I think as a person he's probably a good man, but he's a secular leader in a land where most of the people are happily fanatic fundamentalist.

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Assad has currently at his disposal the 2nd or 1st strongest air to ground capability in the middle east. But as Israel has shown, that will not prevent retreat and defeat if the ground forces are not motivated.

If Russia will switch its recognition to the other side, maybe there can be a more effective government in Syria, one which launches a counteroffensive in Golan heights and against the Kurds.
 
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Enestori said:
This is a truly pathetic performance by Assad. He's had literally 14 years to build an army since the civil war started. After 14 years of real combat experience, his troops are literally running away from the second-largest city in the country.

Just to go back in time, in 2011 China had one J-20 prototype and still had not commissioned a single aircraft carrier. In the same time, Assad apparently did absolutely nothing with his military despite fighting an actual war for the entire time. He doesn't even have the excuse of being an American occupier to explain away this truly massive failure.
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Syria can't be compared to China. But it has done poorly compared to North Korea which has similar population and history.

Kim Il Sung was the only Korean leader to be untainted by collaboration with Imperial Japan and physically in Korea at the end of WW2. Rhee Syngman was flown in from the US.

Assad can't claim legitimacy the same way as his father took power in a coup. He had many chances to improve. But ultimately, he wavered due to his ties with the UK.
 
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One thing, I feel, both Russia and Syria should have handled long ago is that US base at at-Tanf by the Iraqi border. That base is literally a cancer waiting to spread.

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The west and their vassals take advantage heavily on Russian,Iranian and Syrian willingness for diplomacy. Assad probably thought being back on the Arab League along with reconciliation with Turkey that the war was over. Russia in Syria did everything possible with deconfliction to avoid clashes with Israel and the US. I get people applauding Putin or Khamenei for their patience and looking at the long game but there is limits to it. The west and their vassals are cunning and proactive. While Russia and Iran are reactive and stoic. Why don’t Iran and their allies for example do to Jordan what the west is doing to Syria? The Jordanian government is very vulnerable and it opens up another front for the west. Or have the Houthis foment a rebellion in the Najran, Jizan and Asir region near the border? The game should be to overstretch the west with multiple fronts. Strategic patience clearly is not enough when you are dealing with an aggressive enemy.
 
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FairAndUnbiased said:
Syria can't be compared to China. But it has done poorly compared to North Korea which has similar population and history.

Kim Il Sung was the only Korean leader to be untainted by collaboration with Imperial Japan and physically in Korea at the end of WW2. Rhee Syngman was flown in from the US.

Assad can't claim legitimacy the same way as his father took power in a coup. He had many chances to improve. But ultimately, he wavered due to his ties with the UK.
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I don’t know why people keep bringing up North Korea here. They as you said are quite literally incomparable. Syria is practically surrounded on all their borders with their main allies far away and disconnected.

North Korea in the south is an impenetrable DMZ zone short of a total war and the north is secure by China and Russia. Meanwhile the west and east is the sea. They have the freedom to do what they want in relatively safety from external forces.
 
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