Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

iBBz

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The Middle East Spectator reports that two disassembled Su-35s have arrived in Iran and will soon be assembled by Russian engineers. Why would Russia send these planes in that form?
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Iran's Foreign Minister says Iran will respond to Israel's attack.
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The Yemeni resistance published a 20 minute video of their recent military exercises
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More IDF divisions retreating from Lebanon, possibly conducting rotations.
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US estimates Iran can still hit them with another large missile barrage despite the "significant damage done to their missile production facilities". Source: Trust me bro.
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Iran's UAVs were escorting US tankers during the attack on Iran.
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Israel reported that 3 Hezbollah fighters confronted an entire Israeli force, killing and injuring 20 of them.
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Two US bases in Syria were attacked.
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Hezbollah has ordered settlers in Kiryat Shmona to evacuate.
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Hezbollah published footage where they show fire support being provided to their fighters to suppress the IDF forces and restrict their movement.
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An Israeli settler was bitten by a dog near Lebanon. The dog contracted rabies from the settler and is now sedated and being hospitalized.
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CaribouTruth

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The Middle East Spectator reports that two disassembled Su-35s have arrived in Iran and will soon be assembled by Russian engineers. Why would Russia send these planes in that form?
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Is it possible that the Iranians have negotiated some sort of tech transfer and want to eventually build those planes themselves? The first kits will be assembled by the Russians this could be for training the Iranian engineers. (complete speculation on my part)
 

iBBz

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Is it possible that the Iranians have negotiated some sort of tech transfer and want to eventually build those planes themselves? The first kits will be assembled by the Russians this could be for training the Iranian engineers. (complete speculation on my part)
I was thinking the exact same thing. Isn't that how it was done when the Russians transferred Sukhoi jets tech to the Chinese?
 

_killuminati_

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if iran retaliated that means its losses are pretty significant from the israeli airstrikes...
Not really. Even a failed attack is reasonable grounds to retaliate. Irani leaders were saying earlier that despite the attack being weak, it did kill a few people for which they WILL retaliate.
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Twitter bans Khameini's new Hebrew account; no reason given
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10,000 Turkish nationals are fighting for IDF, 4,000 in Gaza, and one General handling the Iron Dome defense

"Stop ethnic cleansing. Stop genocide." - Tel Aviv protest

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US base @ at-Tanf (Iraq-Syria border) hit by drone swarm; oil field also targetted
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TK3600

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Ayatollah Khamenei hinted there will be a retaliation in most recent statements after the Israeli strikes. It will likely be a big strike against Israeli military infrastructure that will hamper the war efforts in Gaza and south Lebanon. I doubt Iran would hit Israel’s critical infrastructure as that would be a major escalation unless Israel hit their own infrastructure. I also don’t think Iran this time will give warning. It will come out of the blue.
Another thing I want to highlight is that the invasion of South Lebanon is becoming a bigger debacle than 2006. Israel is taking serious losses. 12 killed on Friday and 7 more yesterday. The wounded in action number is horrific. They keep falling into these Hezbollah ambushes, come under rocket and atgm fire. Everyone knew this was going to happen but nothing beats Israeli arrogance and stupidity. They say they are going to end the land war in 2-3 weeks. I don’t know how they’ll explain to the people after they withdraw that they still can’t go to the north.
I am extremely skeptical of these withdrawl. Does not seem right. Too rational of a decision. Likely a pause before bigger commitment. That would be their style. I am guessing deployment of western group troops.
 

gelgoog

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The Middle East Spectator reports that two disassembled Su-35s have arrived in Iran and will soon be assembled by Russian engineers. Why would Russia send these planes in that form?
That is often done by Russia. Fighter airplanes being transported disassembled and assembled on site.

In some cases it is because flying to the destination with the aircraft itself is difficult. In other cases they might want to prevent third parties from knowing when, and how many aircraft they delivered. If they flew them direct to Iran radars in Azerbaijan or Turkey could detect the airplane movements.

The other option is like you guys said and this is part of a program where they are training Iranians to assemble the aircraft by themselves.
That would indicate a large purchase by Iran and could involve deeper technology transfer like was done with China and India.
 

JJD1803

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if iran retaliated that means its losses are pretty significant from the israeli airstrikes...
Not at all. Their national sovereignty was violated first of all. It would be weird they struck Israel when the Iranian consulate in Syria was bombed but not when Iranian soil is violated. Second of all they lost 5 soldiers in the process so they have to avenge them. It would be strange for Iran to strike Israel over Haniyeh’s assassination who isn’t Iranian or Shia but not 5 Iranian soldiers. If they do nothing this sets a new precedent for Israel to do air strikes against Iranian soil. Based on all of that Iran will retaliate. And likely will be worse than the October 1st attack and likely will lead to IOF casualties to avenge them 5 soldiers.
 
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