Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

sheogorath

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Which country's soldiers who have actually fought wars don't have PTSD?
US soldiers do since they have been in many wars so that is normal, British soldiers did, French soldiers, Russian soldiers, Ukrainian soldiers, Syrian soldiers etc etc its a universal thing. You could say the same for any other actor. Afterall, every human being will develop some sort of PTSD after being in a war. It's normal, doesn't change the state of a military capabilities of a country. The only soldiers/military who wouldn't have such PTSD are those that haven't been in a war ever.


How many of those did go out of their way to kill "hundreds"(their own words) with bulldozers, though?. And then have a puff sympathy piece written about their "suffering" for having done so, so people feel bad he and his buddies decided to eat a bullet afterward.

Thats outright nazi shit. That's the least they could do, short of being actually tried at a War Crimes court.
 
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TK3600

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There's a "sympathy piece" by CNN on IDF soldiers having "trauma" and "depression" because of their killing. Dozer driver talking about driving over 'hundreds' of bodies dead and alive and seeing their bodies explode.
They'll be building gas chambers soon at this rate.
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Normal person: wow even IDF has humanity, are they changing?

What actually will happen: To reduce incidence of trauma we are justified to use automated gas chamber to reduce PTSD in IDF.

Never sympathize with narcisists.
 

TK3600

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Which country's soldiers who have actually fought wars don't have PTSD?
US soldiers do since they have been in many wars so that is normal, British soldiers did, French soldiers, Russian soldiers, Ukrainian soldiers, Syrian soldiers etc etc its a universal thing. You could say the same for any other actor. Afterall, every human being will develop some sort of PTSD after being in a war. It's normal, doesn't change the state of a military capabilities of a country. The only soldiers/military who wouldn't have such PTSD are those that haven't been in a war ever.
Nonesense. PTSD is mostly in guilt tripping x high intensity trauma in colonial criminals.

You dont hear PTSD often in just wars. Sometimes my grandpa wake up from nightmares of IJA attacking his villages, but he never go crazy. He wake up feeling relieved he did the right thing, and that is the end of that. He would never question his morals and go paranoid. The war left a scar in him, but it never bleeds like PTSD.

Meanwhile look at Iraq wars. By all intent and purpose it is ultra low intensity, mostly just patrolling a country under control. But the amount of PTSD symptoms are disproportionallu high, higher than high intensity combat. Because they know they are the bad guys deep down.

Offtopic: you are probably safer serving in Iraq than being a cop/fireman in bad US neighborhood.
 

jiajia99

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Nonesense. PTSD is mostly in guilt tripping x high intensity trauma in colonial criminals.

You dont hear PTSD often in just wars. Sometimes my grandpa wake up from nightmares of IJA attacking his villages, but he never go crazy. He wake up feeling relieved he did the right thing, and that is the end of that. He would never question his morals and go paranoid. The war left a scar in him, but it never bleeds like PTSD.

Meanwhile look at Iraq wars. By all intent and purpose it is ultra low intensity, mostly just patrolling a country under control. But the amount of PTSD symptoms are disproportionallu high, higher than high intensity combat. Because they know they are the bad guys deep down.

Offtopic: you are probably safer serving in Iraq than being a cop/fireman in bad US neighborhood.
Imagine the PTSD when all this said and done. I mean in the event that the USA loses its hegemony status (inevitable given its current geopolitical standing and ultra high debt) and Israel inevitably gets blasted on all sides sooner or later, and when these IDF soldiers had to relocate to whatever country accepts them after that, they will be berated for the rest of their lives and spit on for their atrocities and their conscious will catch up with them to pretty much calls them out as man/woman killing, baby murdering scum for the rest of their lives. Eventually, they will breakdown permanently and cease to function because by then, not many societies would accept such people that easily to put it extremely mildly .
 
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E100

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There's a "sympathy piece" by CNN on IDF soldiers having "trauma" and "depression" because of their killing. Dozer driver talking about driving over 'hundreds' of bodies dead and alive and seeing their bodies explode.
They'll be building gas chambers soon at this rate.
I recommend everyone read this.
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One of the primary reasons why the Nazis built gas chambers was because soldiers morale was plummiting due to the mass executions of civillians. It's easier to kill something when you can't see it suffer. We will probably see instances of this occuring.

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Michael90

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How many of those did go out of their way to kill "hundreds"(their own words) with bulldozers, though?. And then have a puff sympathy piece written about their "suffering" for having done so, so people feel bad he and his buddies decided to eat a bullet afterward.

Thats outright nazi shit. That's the least they could do, short of being actually tried at a War Crimes court.
Dude, all wars are terrible and of course war crimes and collateral damage is inevitable during such inte se urban warfare. Did you not see the civil war in Syria? It was even more brutal and deadlier than this. Same with the civil war in Lebanon which lasted over a decade, same with the ongoing genocide in Congo or the past one in Rwanda, the wars in south Sudan and genocide in Darfur, the brutal war/ slautering of Rohingyas, the brutal war(some also called it "Russian terrorism campaign" like some of you do with Israel/palestine conflict) in Chechnya by Russia, the ongoing war in Ukraine etc etc..list is long. As i said for me the Israel/palestine or Israel/Arab/Iran issue is just another conflict like many others around the world. Nothing is so special about Israel and Arabs for me to regard this conflict with more focus compared to countless others around the world. We should feel the same outraged as in other countless brutal conflicts around the world, thats if we all just care about human lives but we dont see the same level of concern for obvious reasons. However we all know its not just caring about human lives, most humans obviosuly have biases due to many reasons be it culutural, geo political, racial, ideological or perception reasons. So I understand that. Nothing wrong there.
 
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iewgnem

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It's the typical western modus operandi:

genocide a local population, justify it using western civilisation/freedom/democracy/interests, once it's complete make documentaries about their "dark past" and how their soldiers suffered
They picked a very bad time in history to torch their decades of effort into pretending they're civilized.

Israel has no real industry to support their war machine but has declared war on all their neighbours with no exit plan, their very existence is entirely held together by blank check from the United States, but at the same time they seem to give no regard to the damage they're doing to US foreign relations nor military nor economy. US is already being torn apart by a combination of Ukraine, Chinese industrial dominance, its own debt crisis and Trumpian domestic politics, US military is already unable to afford NGAD nor F15EX nor Constellation nor Sentinel, it already lost thousands of pieces of equipment in Ukraine, and Israel has just taken 2 out of only 7 THAAD batteries in existence to spend on cheap Iranian missiles.

Palestinians are survivors, they have endured with minial assistance and can continue to do so to the end, but Israel can't and has bet everything on a dying empire, with no hope of rehabiliating their imagine now that more than half of humanity are meeting in Russia right now. America is now on a collision course with China, either through war over Taiwan, or through fall of USD, or both, US will sooner or later lose the ability to help Israel, and with Israel at war with everyone around them with a level of hatred that can never be erased, the moment US assistance cease, everyone around them will tore Israel to shreds with no hope for mercy.
 
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