Me too. I didn't see that many interceptions. There are a few in the video but the ones I saw didn't even reach 15 interceptions.
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US provides a lot of the kill chain for Israeli BMD. SBIRS detects the launch of a missile and determine its type and likely destination. That info cues a ground based radar (Green Pine, AN-TPY2) that tracks it, a missile defense interceptor is then launched to kill it.
This system is quite effective (China's HQ-19 and DN-3 uses similar principles). it's just the interceptors are probably 10x the cost of the missiles. You'd be surprised at the ballistic missile production of countries like DPRK and Iran. They sent Russia hundreds of ballistic missiles and have enough to do this.
Exactly. That's the point. But contrary to what Israel claims, the IRGC said it only fired 100 missiles. Who are you going to trust? How does that number make your interception assessment? Furthermore, the lack of evidence of many interceptions (which could have occurred) also does not mean that most or all of the missiles penetrated Israel, so the opposite is true.
In other words, no proof of intercepts.
I cannot see a good number falling apart. Instead, I see a good number hitting the ground after a fiery re-entry into the atmosphere.
Amsterdam to Dubai, filmed over Iran, the standard route. And whose fault is that? Carriers are taking the alternate route over KSA-Egypt-Med. I guess the American-Israeli tech isn't THAT reliable to fly through a warzone.
How is the target being tracked? It has negligible emissions of it's own including the heat signature, the source of which is on the aft end (not facing the tracker and blocked by the body).
TPY-2 and THAAD are deployed at Nevatim AB since 2019.
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Got caught off guard or ineffective...? Either way they're going to lie because the fact is a whole lot of missiles got through. You can read a lot of things. If the US was there to help intercept, how come so many got through? Before, other countries helped intercept. Where were they? Maybe because they weren't a bunch of drones this time. Or maybe they saw Israel crossed the line and didn't get involved this time. If the Arrow was involved, did it work or they didn't have enough? All it says is Iran needs more of these missiles.
The fact that I counted no more than 30 impacts tells me that the intercept rate was not too shabby.
It leaves a huge heat plume behind it.
AN/TPY-2 can track the missiles from 2000km away. AEGIS BMD radars likewise.
Once the motors cuts out it cannot be tracked by IR - detecting the plume is not tracking the bus. It can only be tracked by radar if it rises above the local radar horizon. Russian ICBMs are specifically designed for a very short boost phase to minimize the time that IR satellites can track the motor burn and cue radars.
There's a reason why China strongly opposed THAAD in South Korea and built new silos outside of the northeast.
That's only half the equation. How do you know how many missiles were launched? Are you inserting your own figures of launched projectiles to manipulate the intercept rate to your liking?
Heat plume is behind it, not on it. Heat guidance requires an IR-seeker. TPY-2 does not have an IR-seeker. Tracking a target is not the same as locking a target and guiding an interceptor to it.
It heats up as it travels through the atmosphere at Supersonic, then hypersonic speed. How do you think modern heatseekers work? They can pick up aerodynamic heating.
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